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Old 06-20-2006, 10:06 AM   #1
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Opera 9 for Slackware 10.X


Hey,

I'm sure you may have heard that Opera 9 has just been released. I've always hears such great things about it, but I have never tried it. So, this morning I installed version 9 on my WinXP machine. WOW...what a nice browser/mail reader. I am extremely impressed. I went to the Opera website where they listed Linux downloads and I tried to download a Slack 10.X package with NO success. I don't know if they don't have their site totally updated or what. I was wondering if anyone has been able to download (or for that matter...make..) a package for Slack 10.X. I'm eager to install Opera 9 on my slack box and see if it truly is speedier that Konquer or Firefox.

Thanks!
 
Old 06-20-2006, 10:44 AM   #2
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I had the same problem, looks like the mirrors doesn't have the Slackware version quite yet.
Maybe if we wait a couple of hours or ... days...

I could download some RPM's but I'm sure I don't want that
 
Old 06-20-2006, 10:46 AM   #3
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There was a thread a while back on the general topic of Opera...there's a lot to like, but also too much to hate. The standard binaries should be fine- as far as I know Opera never offerered a package for Slackware. Slackware is in the pulldown list but it doesn't matter. No matter what you select you get the same tar unless it's an RPM for RedHat. If you want to try it just use generic x86 Linux/
 
Old 06-20-2006, 11:05 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randux
There was a thread a while back on the general topic of Opera...there's a lot to like, but also too much to hate.
Where is this thread?

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The standard binaries should be fine- as far as I know Opera never offerered a package for Slackware. Slackware is in the pulldown list but it doesn't matter. No matter what you select you get the same tar unless it's an RPM for RedHat. If you want to try it just use generic x86 Linux/
Well, I decided to rpm2tgz the static rpm from their website. The resulting tgz file installed fine. I had to make my own desktop icon since it did NOT install anything in the KDE menu. Opera 9 seems to run GREAT. The only thing is that the font in the menus are NOT anti-aliased.
 
Old 06-20-2006, 11:07 AM   #5
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I didn't bookmark it, sorry. I don't think it was in the Slackware forum.

Sounds like you have it working anyway.
 
Old 06-20-2006, 11:24 AM   #6
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Hi Randux

"there's a lot to like, but also too much to hate"

Do you recall any specifics or which version this may have been directed to? So far, on my Slack box (Toshiba Laptop AMD K6-2 475Mhz 320MB RAM, KDE, etc..) Opera 9 is MUCH faster than my other browser options (Seamonkey and Konquer). Konquer loads faster, but is slow when browsing. Seamonkey takes a while to load and is marginally faster than Konquer. Opera 9 just flies! Menus are responsive. Pages load VERY quickly with NO stutter (ahem..konquer) and overall it is a great experience.

I have run across a problem with the display of a website. The website for a local church was professionally designed in Dreamweaver and the menu at the top is doubled on the screen. I'm sure this and many other compatabilty issues are being worked on by the Opera developers on a regular basis.
 
Old 06-20-2006, 11:41 AM   #7
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I gave beta 9 a good workout and I found tons and tons of bugs in the GUI. It was the worst beta I've seen, to me it felt a lot more like an alpha. I'm a software guy and I have a pretty low tolerance for sloppy work.

I don't like the defaults in Opera which expose too much. You can set it up to be mostly ok but you have to tweak everything. It shouldn't come that way.

I can never (and I'm not the only one) get the cookie handling in Opera (not just 9 but also 8.x) to work like I want. Mozilla (which I've been using pretty much since the beginning) is the only browser that behaves mostly like I want. I haven't done any timings but Opera never felt faster than Mozilla to me and I think it's just because you get the status bars you feel like you're not waiting. If you wanna see fast, try Dillo. But it renders a lot of stuff wrong.


The bottom line is that if you're happy with Opera, use it!
 
Old 06-20-2006, 12:12 PM   #8
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well lads, we all must accept that the fastest web browser on this Earth is...

Links

of course

LOL! ...

damn elves... I'm sure they put something odd in my coffee again
 
Old 06-21-2006, 08:45 PM   #9
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Ok, now when you select Slackware 10.X on the Opera website you get a "tar.gz" file that says in the name "shared-qt" as opposed to the rpm which is "static-qt". Soooo, what's the difference? I'm assuming that the "shared-qt" makes use of qt where as "static-qt" does not. Next, how would I install the "tar.gz"? Do I just rename the file with a tgz extension and try and install it? I have no idea.

EDIT Renaming and installing did not work.

Second Edit

I checked the Opera ftp server and found 2 rpms in the "shared" folder. One was ".5" and one was ".6" I downloaded ".6" and did "rpm2tgz" and installed the package. NOW I have qt integration. All of the menus have antialiased fonts and use my qt theme. Life is good.

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Old 06-21-2006, 09:44 PM   #10
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You will find Opera 9 for Slackware on www.slacky.it together with quite a nice selection of other packages. IMHO, that place is a lot better then linuxpackages.

*I'm not affiliated with either of the above sites, lol*
 
Old 06-21-2006, 09:54 PM   #11
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You don't need a slackpack from slacky.it or LP.net to install an official build of Opera on your system, and you also don't need to convert RPM's to tgz files (although this is a working method). As always, you can simply extract Opera's tarball (tar.gz format) and run the installer that is enclosed. That's it. Most people will use the shared-qt version, unless for some reason you don't have qt installed on your computer.
 
Old 06-22-2006, 04:00 AM   #12
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i always use the static-qt package and convert to tgz using rpm2tgz and it worked
 
Old 06-23-2006, 07:22 AM   #13
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working already

hi,
I experienced the same on the opera website last week, tried again two days ago and the slackware package was there already. It upgraded without problems and works really good...
 
Old 06-23-2006, 04:05 PM   #14
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I love using opera, mostly. The static-qt is the most dependable way. It supplies its' own qt-libs. Maybe one of the shared-qt packages work if you have KDE installed.
Has anyone ever checked this to see?
 
Old 06-23-2006, 04:10 PM   #15
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I use the shared-qt one, because is the one supplied as the "Slackware" version on the Opera site, though until this thread I learnt what is that supposed to mean

Without realizing, I was using the static-qt from versions 8.51, 8.52 and 8.54.

Now that I have this version 9 with shared-qt, I'm really keeping it that way. It really looks better on the fonts, widgets and menus, actually looks quite more integrated in the KDE environment, which I use and don't plan to change for anything else (only temporarily for XFCE when compiling ).

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