Clawhead, i have a server running here behind an unlimited (granted... slow) 288k upstream .. If you want, i can host the .tgz files on it, but limit the total speed to ~ 20k/sec, or maby create a torrent for them

Just a thought. Although tbh i'd prefer to host the final release of OO2 as i've noticed a few weird bugs in this one.

If a lot of people are having a problem with rpm2tgz, then it would be a good idea to post the tgz files. However, I've seen only one report of this problem so far.

Thanks for the offer. Let's see how it goes.

Have you removed cpio?

I encountered this problem before, took me some time to figure out rpm2tgz needs cpio.

1. these rpms install just fine on slackware boxes (mostly current) with included rpm tool;

2. cavalier and anybody else who has problems with rpm2tgz - you must have cpio installed (supplied with slackware) or else you'll get tgz packages of size 0 and no error messages

Are you saying that you don't even have to convert the rpms to tgz files? Or by "include rpm tool" are you referring to the rpm2tgz script?

Well you should be able to install rpms through the rpm tool, but I have never done this coz I prefer converting them to *tgz.

That's it! You've got the answer

Anyone else annoyed by the new distribution method in general principle?

And putting on my tinfoil hat, I find it very peculiar that Sun has received an influx of cash from MS, has declared Linux equals Red Hat as the prime strategy in their war (yes, that's what it is) on Linux, and then OOo suddenly starts distributing OOo in RPMs because, well, obviously, that's the only Linux package format. Because Linux is Red Hat. Now, I know OOo is 'independent' of Sun but now I wonder how independent. (Yeah, I know they have to admit SuSE exists now, too, because of Novell and there's a SuSE-menu RPm, but still.)

But that's just my tinfoil hat. Regardless, I still find it bone-headedly stupid and annoying. And I was reading a bug report and the thing was marked *solved* because the *official* response to a dude trying to get it working on Gentoo was to *install RPM*. Why the hell should a dude with something like portage have to muck up his system with something useless like RPM just for OOo? Why should Slackers? Archers? Anybody? What the hell - why not mark the damn bug solved with the advice that all a guy needs to do is install *WINE and MS Office*. There's a great solution for getting your office suite.

And to submit a bug, I have to *register* which I ain't doing and is why I'm bitching here. Sorry. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

clawhead, yes, slackware includes rpm tool (with a warning text "unsupported" :) )
of course, this method isn't exactly the best (you have to use --nodeps, i think it can install packages in incorrect order etc, but it works for oo.org).

for some reason rpm2tgz didn't extract installation scripts (oo.org 1.9-something, first release with rpms), so oo.org won't run. since then i haven't tried converting them again - but it seems this method works ok for some people.

digiot, about your tinfoiling ;)
oo.org moved to native packages mostly for convinience - especially for big installations. old installer was pretty hard to handle in enterprise, but standard packages (msi, rpm etc) mostly are supported by native/3d party tools os that installing and upgrading them is a lot easier.

why only rpms - probably because this is the most popular format... and creating other packages might be alot of a work. probably 2.0 final will have other formats, but who knows.

All I can say is, if there's not official Slackware packages provided by OO.o, I'll start maintaining them myself, and submitting them to linuxpackages.net

At least that makes two of us. I'm annoyed as hell.

yes, it is somewhat annoying that they default to rpm, I agree. but looking at one of the mirror dir's:

ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/office/openof...table/2.0beta/

(from: http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html ) there's a: "OOo_2.0beta_src.tar.gz" -- but I didn't d/l it (275 MB ). has anyone tried it?

it's a source, not binary package. it has to be compiled. takes some time and requires some components (and it's not very fast to compile).

this supposedly is a package you can build tar.gz or any other package format from.

Fonts support is terrible on Openoffice 2beta!

Anybody experience the same thing?

Fonts which was supported by 1.1.4 is now just a pile of junk in 2beta.

Though, there is improvement with speed; startup and adding fonts.

It is useless without my fonts! Looks like got to roll back to 1.1.4. Good thing I did not rm -r openoffice-1.1.4.

Yep, i tried to print russian, but it was a big desaster... Eventually i noticed that it's just OO2's fault, and it printed perfectly in OO1.1.4