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Old 03-22-2010, 08:22 PM   #31
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HOW ... DO ... YOU ... USE ... "SlackBuild"?

No instructions of any type or kind come with the program ... "un"tar it - then what?

tyc
No need to yell. Especially at people who are trying to help you. Someone already provided a link to the instructions. Did you read them? Did you even click on the link?

I actually installed OpenOffice3 using the slackbuild today, and it works just fine when you follow the instructions. Read the instructions, try them out, and come back here when you get stuck.
 
Old 03-23-2010, 01:48 AM   #32
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... Someone already provided a link to the instructions. Did you read them? Did you even click on the link?

I actually installed OpenOffice3 using the slackbuild today, and it works just fine when you follow the instructions. Read the instructions, try them out, and come back here when you get stuck.
Yes, I clicked on the link and found no instructions of consequence ... at least which worked for me ... that's why I'm back here ... asking for the fourth or fifth time ... with all the un-tarred files in the same directory ... how do you do it?

It's beginning to look like I have a bad install. I've had that problem with Suse v10.0 which I've used for years with an older laptop and re-installing Suse v10.0 repeatedly proved to essentially be as simple as one, two, three ... With this Slackware v13, while it's supposed to be a Linux system, RPM does NOT work. I've tried converting the appropriate RPM files to *.tgz and that doesn't work. So on this end the question still stands, just how far off the "beaten path", the tried and true Linux path is this Slackware "Linux?" As seen and experienced here so far, Volkerding is actually making those Window$ people look good.

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Old 03-23-2010, 03:20 AM   #33
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Please stop feeding the troll people.
 
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:41 AM   #34
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its not a program its a script that needs to be runned in a terminal.
So untar the slackbulid not the openoffice binary!
then put the oo binary in the slackbuild folder.
open a terminal,become su,cd /your/path/to/theslackbuildfolder.
execute the script.
or you can use kate to make the script and pipe it to terminal or any editor of your choice.
Even cut and paste it to the terminal will do the trick or drag and drop the script,dont be afraid to try different ways to make it work for you and to understand how .sh scripts work you have to learn unix/linux
from scratch my friend.
Now if that dont work download sbopkg and use the pkgtool in terminal to install it.
then run sbopkg and its just click,click,click and you have open office installed.
Now i really hope that i didnt mess up anything here for you,im a new slackwareuser too and i had a recent mixup with the usb_modeswitch slackbuild and got help to understand how you make it work and one user rewrote and send me his script. you just cant know it all but i will tell you this,Alienbob even took time to answer your question and several other gurus and slackware developers.
You cant get that in any other dist,so be humble and wise.
And if you still cant get it to work you can email me and in worse case ill put a working openoffice on my server for you to download or send you a cd.
All im asking is that you take it easy and enjoy your new slackware,
And hey read up on unix/linux and youll be a guru in notime.

And im not being silly or patronizing here,im almost 40,swedish,and have a little issue spelling and stuff in english so you know.
I also have ADHD so im a little weird sometimes.
And if youre just trolling shame on you(and we have your ip )

AND TO THE SENIOR SLACKERS PLEASE CHECK THAT I GOT IT RIGHT.
 
Old 03-23-2010, 03:44 AM   #35
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Please stop feeding the troll people.
Yes i do have a feeling you might be right but i at least tried to be a good slackwareuser
 
Old 03-23-2010, 04:01 AM   #36
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Yes i do have a feeling you might be right but i at least tried to be a good slackwareuser
O, I have no complaints at all about the helpfulness of all the other posters in this thread! The HOWTO that people linked to as well as your and others' instructions are obviously easy to follow. That is why I am calling tyc a troll.

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Old 03-23-2010, 02:31 PM   #37
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You could always install it from source via the 'make install' method, should you choose.
I appreciate your interest and input and I can tell you now ... that does NOT work. While the installed pkg is there, in /OPT, the installation is not recognized.

Again, thanks for the interest.

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Old 03-23-2010, 02:39 PM   #38
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Perhaps it's just you? I don't have the need to "reprogram" (?) software everytime I use it. There are no "tricks" to using Slackware.



I really have no idea what you are complaining about. If you are not familiar with the use of a SlackBuild script, please read the instructions first: http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ . Using a SPEC file to build a RPM is not all that different. After all, it is just an automated way to create an installable package for your distribution.

You may conclude that Slackware is not for you. That's alright. You may also want to persevere and try to understand what you are actually doing when running a SlackBuild script. The learning experience should be satisfying.

Eric

With the thought in mind that I have been using Linux since March of 2002, Mandrake and Suse and I can tell you now, there are indeed "tricks" to using Slackware, "tricks" that are NOT used by other distributions and Open Office is a case in point!

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Old 03-23-2010, 02:52 PM   #39
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With the thought in mind that I have been using Linux since March of 2002, Mandrake and Suse and I can tell you now, there are indeed "tricks" to using Slackware, "tricks" that are NOT used by other distributions and Open Office is a case in point!

tyc
The only "trick" I see is that the OpenOffice.org people provide their binaries in RPM format, which is not a native Slackware package format. They apparently do not care about people who do not use RPM.

So, in order to produce a nice (de-)installable Slackware package, we use the aforementioned SlackBuild script to extract what we need from those RPMs and re-package those into a Slackware package. This is a straight-forward process, described in great detail on the HOWTO page that several people linked to.

If you are using Linux since 2002 and still have no clue what to do here, it is obvious that you have been using brain-dumbing distros all that time... all the more reason to invest a little effort and try to grasp the concept of package building.

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Old 03-23-2010, 02:52 PM   #40
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I've had Slackware before, and I had various problems. In a nutshell, Slackware is unusable for me. Mainly, both my network cards did not work

BUT, there is always a reason behind something not working. Looking for an answer without a problem is difficult. Find the problem first. MY problem with Slackware is that it had too old of a kernel. If I were not lazy, I could install Slackware and compile me a newer kernel (which has my 'drivers' built-in) and start Slackin' w/ not one problem. -- Looking at logs is a great way to start finding problems.
While a hard core of Slackware devotees may not agree, I know I'm but one of many who've had problems with this distribution and yes there is a reason for the problems. One of which is a failure or outright refusal on the part of the developer to back up his work. How many years now Volkerding been "sitting" on his backside with regard to getting out that long awaited upgrade to his Slackware text?

There also appears to be a "sound problem" which I've yet to really get into -- no sound at all! And yes, I know about the Alsamixer.

Then there's the KPPP problem, one which at this point appears to a mix of Slackware and KDE issues.


Yes, I agree, there's a reason(s) for the problems and the best way I've found is to take them on, one at a time, finish it up and get on with the next one; first "A", then "B", then "C", etc.

Thanks for the interest though, it's appreciated.

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Old 03-23-2010, 02:58 PM   #41
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With Slackware being the oldest still maintained linux distribution I think it's fair to say that Slackware is right in the middle of the "Linux path" whatever that means. Just because you don't know how to use something, doesn't mean it doesn't work just fine.

If you install sbopkg then it will completely automate the entire slackbuild process to the point that you don't even have to manually download the package or install it.
I'll have to look into that "sbopkg" but first I'm going to have a good look at this "Slackbuild" software. One thing I can tell you at this point is that and contrary to what one individual has stated here, RPM does NOT work when trying to install Open Office with is Slackware - and as I know and understand these things - that shouldn't be. Red Hat Package Manager as I understand it, is the defacto standard with most distributions.

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Old 03-23-2010, 03:03 PM   #42
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Well i think that we tried to help you so why are you upset?
What you're not aware of at this point is that which should have been a simple straight forward procedure has proven to be anything but. You wouldn't believe the HOURS lost, with just this particular issue, and yes, there are others.

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Old 03-23-2010, 03:09 PM   #43
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You have nice people trying their best to help you for free.
No one made you install Slackware.
You should be more patient and be nice to these people. Actually try and solve the problem yourself instead of whining.
You should really give these guys a nice thanks.
When it comes to Linux, it all about you. You are whats responsible for anything and everything.
There is literally 100,000's of pages of documentation. It would be in best interest to consult these fine works.
I apologize for not being so helpful myself, I am not a Slackware user. My best advice is if all fails, compile the darn sucker, find the dependencies it asks for, compile it again and install it. This method is just as well documented, too.
Good luck, have fun (Linux can be if you let it), and have a glance at my sig if you are unsure.
You have no idea of the HOURS lost so far in this effort - no idea at all.

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Old 03-23-2010, 03:17 PM   #44
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Hang in there - it does get easier once you know where to look for info. Your easiest route is to use the package from rworkman. Open a terminal as root and type the following line:
installpkg /directory-where-package-is/package-name
then hit enter.
This will automatically install the package for you.
How to start the package will depend on what window manager you are using. In general you should be able to look in your menu and find Open Office under one of the sub-menus.

Good luck. If this doesn't work, just ask again and tell us as precisely as you can what happened. Someone will get you going.
I appreciate the interest but experience is showing me there there's a lot more to it than what you've briefly described here ... but again, thanks for the interest.

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Old 03-23-2010, 03:22 PM   #45
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No need to yell. Especially at people who are trying to help you. Someone already provided a link to the instructions. Did you read them? Did you even click on the link?

I actually installed OpenOffice3 using the slackbuild today, and it works just fine when you follow the instructions. Read the instructions, try them out, and come back here when you get stuck.
Did you install that Open Office software with Slackware v13?

If you did install that Open Office software with Slackware v13, please tell me, step by step, step by step, step by step, step by step, just how how you did it.

tyc
 
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