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Old 03-18-2010, 06:09 PM   #16
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Sbopkg? Never heard of it ... but then that's nothing new for me. Appreciate the info. Thanks.
It's here - you've got to check it out it's a brilliant tool.
 
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:19 AM   #17
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Both rworkman's package and the SlackBuild on slackbuilds.org repackage the official OpenOffice binaries, so there is no compilation AFAIK, and neither will take very long to install. Robby's package is done for you so you can just download and install. With the SlackBuild, you download, run the SlackBuild, and it will repackage the binaries into a standard Slackware package, which you can then install. This takes a bit longer but since it is repackaging and not compiling it does not take long at all. Either way is quick and easy.
Really beginning to have real doubts about the value of this Slackware. Aside from the "fun" of reprogramming the software just about every time I wish to use it, there's some other "trick", which seems to be unique to Slackware, which has to be used to make the software package work. I wonder, just how far off the tried and true beaten path is this Slackware?

As for getting Slackware to work with Open Office, I've d/l the OOo software to a directory I call "Downloads". Now "Slackbuilds" is in that "Downloads" directory to. Both the OOo sofware and the Slackbuilds files have been "tar-red" and ready to go BUT the "Slackbuilds" contains ZERO instructions with regard to - how to use it? I speak English and have been doing rather well with it for years now and while that guy Vokerding and the author of "Slackbuilds" may into mind reading, I'm not and I wonder, just what else is wrong with "Slackware", that's so far off the Linux path? At this point, Slackware appears at best to be very annoying - to put it mildly.

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Old 03-21-2010, 10:24 AM   #18
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You could always install it from source via the 'make install' method, should you choose.
 
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:09 AM   #19
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Really beginning to have real doubts about the value of this Slackware. Aside from the "fun" of reprogramming the software just about every time I wish to use it, there's some other "trick", which seems to be unique to Slackware, which has to be used to make the software package work. I wonder, just how far off the tried and true beaten path is this Slackware?
Perhaps it's just you? I don't have the need to "reprogram" (?) software everytime I use it. There are no "tricks" to using Slackware.

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As for getting Slackware to work with Open Office, I've d/l the OOo software to a directory I call "Downloads". Now "Slackbuilds" is in that "Downloads" directory to. Both the OOo sofware and the Slackbuilds files have been "tar-red" and ready to go BUT the "Slackbuilds" contains ZERO instructions with regard to - how to use it? I speak English and have been doing rather well with it for years now and while that guy Vokerding and the author of "Slackbuilds" may into mind reading, I'm not and I wonder, just what else is wrong with "Slackware", that's so far off the Linux path? At this point, Slackware appears at best to be very annoying - to put it mildly.
I really have no idea what you are complaining about. If you are not familiar with the use of a SlackBuild script, please read the instructions first: http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ . Using a SPEC file to build a RPM is not all that different. After all, it is just an automated way to create an installable package for your distribution.

You may conclude that Slackware is not for you. That's alright. You may also want to persevere and try to understand what you are actually doing when running a SlackBuild script. The learning experience should be satisfying.

Eric

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Old 03-21-2010, 11:45 AM   #20
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I've had Slackware before, and I had various problems. In a nutshell, Slackware is unusable for me. Mainly, both my network cards did not work

BUT, there is always a reason behind something not working. Looking for an answer without a problem is difficult. Find the problem first. MY problem with Slackware is that it had too old of a kernel. If I were not lazy, I could install Slackware and compile me a newer kernel (which has my 'drivers' built-in) and start Slackin' w/ not one problem. -- Looking at logs is a great way to start finding problems.

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Old 03-21-2010, 12:27 PM   #21
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I wonder, just what else is wrong with "Slackware", that's so far off the Linux path?
With Slackware being the oldest still maintained linux distribution I think it's fair to say that Slackware is right in the middle of the "Linux path" whatever that means. Just because you don't know how to use something, doesn't mean it doesn't work just fine.

If you install sbopkg then it will completely automate the entire slackbuild process to the point that you don't even have to manually download the package or install it.
 
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Old 03-21-2010, 12:35 PM   #22
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With Slackware being the oldest still maintained linux distribution I think it's fair to say that Slackware is right in the middle of the "Linux path" whatever that means. Just because you don't know how to use something, doesn't mean it doesn't work just fine.

If you install sbopkg then it will completely automate the entire slackbuild process to the point that you don't even have to manually download the package or install it.
Slackware is a vanilla Linux distro. It's more on the path than most.
 
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Old 03-21-2010, 12:45 PM   #23
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Slackware is a vanilla Linux distro. It's more on the path than most.
My point exactly.
 
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Old 03-21-2010, 06:30 PM   #24
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Really beginning to have real doubts about the value of this Slackware. Aside from the "fun" of reprogramming the software just about every time I wish to use it, there's some other "trick", which seems to be unique to Slackware, which has to be used to make the software package work. I wonder, just how far off the tried and true beaten path is this Slackware?

As for getting Slackware to work with Open Office, I've d/l the OOo software to a directory I call "Downloads". Now "Slackbuilds" is in that "Downloads" directory to. Both the OOo sofware and the Slackbuilds files have been "tar-red" and ready to go BUT the "Slackbuilds" contains ZERO instructions with regard to - how to use it? I speak English and have been doing rather well with it for years now and while that guy Vokerding and the author of "Slackbuilds" may into mind reading, I'm not and I wonder, just what else is wrong with "Slackware", that's so far off the Linux path? At this point, Slackware appears at best to be very annoying - to put it mildly.

tyc
Well i think that we tried to help you so why are you upset?
 
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:45 PM   #25
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Both rworkman's package and the SlackBuild on slackbuilds.org repackage the official OpenOffice binaries, so there is no compilation AFAIK, and neither will take very long to install. Robby's package is done for you so you can just download and install. With the SlackBuild, you download, run the SlackBuild, and it will repackage the binaries into a standard Slackware package, which you can then install. This takes a bit longer but since it is repackaging and not compiling it does not take long at all. Either way is quick and easy.
HOW ... DO ... YOU ... USE ... "SlackBuild"?

No instructions of any type or kind come with the program ... "un"tar it - then what?

tyc
 
Old 03-22-2010, 01:52 PM   #26
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Here's how to:
http://slackbuilds.org/howto/
 
Old 03-22-2010, 05:03 PM   #27
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Really beginning to have real doubts about the value of this Slackware. Aside from the "fun" of reprogramming the software just about every time I wish to use it, there's some other "trick", which seems to be unique to Slackware, which has to be used to make the software package work. I wonder, just how far off the tried and true beaten path is this Slackware?
You are totally lost, boy.

If you think

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#ARCH=(whatever your system is) ./Oorg.SlackBuild
#installpkg Oorg.tgz
is a difficult "programming", you should stick up to M$. If you wanna learn, we can help you, with pleasure. But take it easy, dude. You gotta learn some linux principles before writing a very angry post. This is a very friendly forum, not a warfield.
 
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:11 PM   #28
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Now did you figure it out?
 
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:42 PM   #29
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Hang in there - it does get easier once you know where to look for info. Your easiest route is to use the package from rworkman. Open a terminal as root and type the following line:
installpkg /directory-where-package-is/package-name
then hit enter.
This will automatically install the package for you.
How to start the package will depend on what window manager you are using. In general you should be able to look in your menu and find Open Office under one of the sub-menus.

Good luck. If this doesn't work, just ask again and tell us as precisely as you can what happened. Someone will get you going.
 
Old 03-22-2010, 07:55 PM   #30
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You have nice people trying their best to help you for free.
No one made you install Slackware.
You should be more patient and be nice to these people. Actually try and solve the problem yourself instead of whining.
You should really give these guys a nice thanks.
When it comes to Linux, it all about you. You are whats responsible for anything and everything.
There is literally 100,000's of pages of documentation. It would be in best interest to consult these fine works.
I apologize for not being so helpful myself, I am not a Slackware user. My best advice is if all fails, compile the darn sucker, find the dependencies it asks for, compile it again and install it. This method is just as well documented, too.
Good luck, have fun (Linux can be if you let it), and have a glance at my sig if you are unsure.

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