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05-07-2006, 07:26 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Nepal
Distribution: Slackware 10.2
Posts: 15
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NTFS Write support not working in Laptops
hi there,
I am using a slackware 10.2 in my IBM Thinkpad A31. I recompiled the kernel from source using 2.6.16.5. Everything went fine except the NTFS write support. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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05-07-2006, 08:19 AM
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#2
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Siberia
Distribution: Slackware & Slamd64. What else is there?
Posts: 1,705
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteDevel
hi there,
I am using a slackware 10.2 in my IBM Thinkpad A31. I recompiled the kernel from source using 2.6.16.5. Everything went fine except the NTFS write support. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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We had a question on this a few weeks ago, and I think everybody agreed that NTFS write is not supported. Did you check this forum?
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05-08-2006, 01:19 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Nepal
Distribution: Slackware 10.2
Posts: 15
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thnx for your suggestion dear Mr. Randux.. well i understand that people here dont get paid for helping others. But this is phenomena over here isnt it. You get what you put in and people get what they deserve. Well bout my problem i am using this damn NTFS write support in my home PC perfectly with the same kernel 2.6.16.5. i just want to know if there is any discrepancy while using this NTFS write support with portable hard disks like that. Well anyways thnx for replying...
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05-08-2006, 04:07 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Siberia
Distribution: Slackware & Slamd64. What else is there?
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So you open a thread saying that "everything went fine except the NTFS support." And in your last post you say it's working perfectly.
So I guess you just like hearing yourself type! Have a nice blog.
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05-08-2006, 09:28 AM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Australia
Distribution: Slackware 12.1
Posts: 173
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He said it was working fine on his desktop. I think?
Anyway, its a kernel option, did you include NTFS write in your kernel? I myself leave it out cause I do not want to corrupt windows data, which I am told can happen, so use it at your own risk I think is the general thought.
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05-08-2006, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: In my house.
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.10 64bit, Slackware 13.1 64-bit
Posts: 2,649
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Seems like nobody is exactly reading the OP's posts.
1: Has the same options/same kernel on a desktop and a laptop
2: NTFS write works on desktop, not on laptop.
3: Wants to know why
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteDevel
i just want to know if there is any discrepancy while using this NTFS write support with portable hard disks
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OK...Little more info first. How about
Code:
cat /proc/filesystems
And
Also, what type HDD are we talking about, and where is it mounted?
PS. Sorry about the previous posts. I beleive they just misunderstood you. Also, more information is always better....
Last edited by cwwilson721; 05-08-2006 at 12:11 PM.
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05-08-2006, 12:14 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Siberia
Distribution: Slackware & Slamd64. What else is there?
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If you look at the opening thread, there's only the statement that everything works but NTFS write support. There isn't any desktop/laptop issue stated.
The rest of the "info" started trickling in after he freaked out over my .sig (which was not directed at him).
Must be the thin air.
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05-09-2006, 01:05 AM
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#8
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Nepal
Distribution: Slackware 10.2
Posts: 15
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Dear All,
Thnx for replying my post. Anyways i am not here to create any trouble or make any one feel bad and hope u people also think like that. I just wanted a little help with my system over here. I want to say something to Mr. Randux,.. pls dont feel bad for any of my words. Actually i think you haven't looked at my subject in the first post. From the very beginining i was talking bout laptops not desktops.
Well well well,,, i would like to provide you people some information bout whats goin on in my system. The following are the contents of /etc/fstab and /proc/filesystems respectively..
Code:
/dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hda10 / ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda7 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda9 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda1 /windows ntfs ro 1 0
/dev/hda5 /failsafe ntfs users,rw,umask=0 1 0
/dev/hda6 /zte ntfs users,ro,umask=0 1 0
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,owner,ro 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
Code:
nodev sysfs
nodev rootfs
nodev bdev
nodev proc
nodev binfmt_misc
nodev sockfs
nodev usbfs
nodev pipefs
nodev futexfs
nodev tmpfs
nodev inotifyfs
nodev eventpollfs
nodev devpts
ext3
ext2
nodev ramfs
msdos
vfat
iso9660
nodev nfs
nodev nfsd
nodev smbfs
ntfs
nodev autofs
udf
nodev mqueue
nodev oprofilefs
nodev rpc_pipefs
As you can see in the fstab there are altogether three ntfs partitions in my harddisk. ohh about my harddisk...its an IBM Travelstar of 40 G with 3 partitions of NTFS each of around 10 G. Wait i will provide you the partition information too.
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda10 7.1G 3.4G 3.4G 50% /
/dev/hda7 101M 9.4M 86M 10% /boot
/dev/hda9 1.9G 453M 1.4G 26% /home
/dev/hda1 9.8G 5.5G 4.4G 56% /windows
/dev/hda5 9.8G 5.6G 4.3G 57% /failsafe
/dev/hda6 8.0G 3.6G 4.5G 45% /zte
well right now what i have done is mounted the failsafe named NTFS partition as readwrite and left the other two partitions as read only. I have compiled the kernel 2.6.16.5 with NTFS write support as a kernel chunk but not as a module..
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05-10-2006, 06:33 AM
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Member
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Australia
Distribution: slackware 12.1
Posts: 753
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we need ntfs source code !! reverse engineering isn't working, not yet !!
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05-10-2006, 10:17 AM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Ne
Distribution: slackware 12 on Dell XPS m1710
Posts: 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteDevel
Dear All,
Thnx for replying my post. Anyways i am not here to create any trouble or make any one feel bad and hope u people also think like that. I just wanted a little help with my system over here. I want to say something to Mr. Randux,.. pls dont feel bad for any of my words. Actually i think you haven't looked at my subject in the first post. From the very beginining i was talking bout laptops not desktops.
Well well well,,, i would like to provide you people some information bout whats goin on in my system. The following are the contents of /etc/fstab and /proc/filesystems respectively..
Code:
/dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hda10 / ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda7 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda9 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda1 /windows ntfs ro 1 0
/dev/hda5 /failsafe ntfs users,rw,umask=0 1 0
/dev/hda6 /zte ntfs users,ro,umask=0 1 0
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,owner,ro 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
<<snip>>
well right now what i have done is mounted the failsafe named NTFS partition as readwrite and left the other two partitions as read only. I have compiled the kernel 2.6.16.5 with NTFS write support as a kernel chunk but not as a module..
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keep in mind that I dont know what I'm talking about yet, but I thought the umask comment in your fstab needed to be "umask=000". Does it make a difference if you change that?
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05-10-2006, 10:50 AM
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Member
Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 189
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what utilities are you using tor NTFS writing ?
try using ntfsprogs
http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=status
they provide better support than the new kernel driver. I have used QTparted which uses these utilities to resize my ntfs partition.
It worked without probs. The support is very reliable, it will refuse to write if the writing is not possible.
I hope this helps.
EDIT: i used it on my laptop, and anyway this doesnt matter.
Hardik
Last edited by rangalo; 05-10-2006 at 11:23 AM.
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05-10-2006, 11:08 AM
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#12
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Member
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Aguascalientes, AGS. Mexico.
Distribution: Slackware 13.0 kernel 2.6.29.6
Posts: 816
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drlouis
...but I thought the umask comment in your fstab needed to be "umask=000"...
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nope, umask=0 is fine, I use it that way (on fat32 partitions)
let me ask you, WhiteDevel, why do you have to mess up with NTFS partitions? Those are slow, clunky and difficult to keep sane, and most important to me: are not properly supported by linux (read the help on the kernel write-capabilities on NTFS), it's very experimental, unstable and coming from Micro$oft I just won't trust to put my data on it.
I you need to access data on both your windoze and your linux systems, why don't you put it on FAT32 partitions? Not fast, not better than ext2 but stable and well supported at least.
just my
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05-10-2006, 11:27 AM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Ne
Distribution: slackware 12 on Dell XPS m1710
Posts: 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raska
nope, umask=0 is fine, I use it that way (on fat32 partitions)
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well, at least I learned something. Thanks.
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05-10-2006, 11:40 AM
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Member
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Havant, Hampshire, UK
Distribution: Slamd64, Slackware, PS2Linux
Posts: 465
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Alternatively, go the other way and use the ext2fs driver for Windows =)
http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
That's not exactly a solution to why things are not working on the laptop, however. As cwwilson has stated the problems precisely, let's borrow his list and have a look at them =)
1: Has the same options/same kernel on a desktop and a laptop
Ah, correction - has the same KERNEL on desktop / laptop - forgive me, but I don't see anywhere that both kernels are configured the same. Could you, WhiteDevel, please check you've got the same parts for ntfs write support built in your laptop kernel? Could be as simple as missing an option somewhere. Sounds like you know how to do this, so I won't patronise you
2: NTFS write works on desktop, not on laptop.
3: Wants to know why
Could be due to a misconfigured kernel or a piece of software that's missing/incorrect. I doubt, seriously, it would be a hardware problem. Hardware does not distinguish between filesystems, it tends to only care about raw binary data.
What sort of errors are you getting when you attempt to write to that RW partition? Anything that shows up in dmesg or /var/log/messages might give you some help, too.
Perhaps borrow your desktop config as a starting point for the laptop kernel and build another one and see if it makes a difference?
Let us know how it turns out,
- Piete.
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