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Old 09-18-2019, 03:28 PM   #1
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New Website for Slackware


Hello Fellow Slackers

I want to say thank you Slackware, for giving the skills and ability to continue using this awesome distro. I have learned a lot during the years, and a lot of it is because of Slackware. There is something to be said about Slackware that keeps drawing me back to this distro, and sometimes I feel like the industry can be overwhelming with changes or other things just for the sake of it, but can always return to Slackware and still feel at home. That being said, I would like to propose a website for Slackware. As you know, the site has not changed for years, and it's OK, but more people and users of all kind are using smart devices, tablets, touch, etc. and having a responsive website would help the project a lot. Also, the reason I propose this is because of a few things.

- one I want to bring more users to the community and help it grow more as it could reach out to more users.
- I am trying to break into development and want to contribute my time to a project I care and has a lot of history.
- with more users, pat could get more support than he needs.

I can break the phase it creating this, of course, all of this will be pro-bono and opensource. I was. I am thinking of creating the site on Github and create a organization. Once Pat and others are happy, I can transfer ownership to him or his choosing. This way, someone can audit the code and know its opensource. Let me know your thoughts.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:29 AM   #2
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for contributions slackware you can edit/ write slackwiki eg https://www.slackwiki.com/Writing_A_SlackBuild_Script

i started editing that page you can help if you want or browse other pages.
 
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:16 AM   #3
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Welcome to LQ, joescript!
Great ideas! The best way that you can support Slackware is to help ensure that it survives with financial support. You can donate to Slackware if you wish. Please see the links in my signature.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 09:48 AM   #4
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Hasn't it been said that one of the reasons so much of the website is out of date because it is difficult to change it? From that perspective, I think a new website that is easier to manage is a great idea, but I have no idea if Pat would be receptive to it. It might be a good project to get started and then pitch it to Pat after the release of Slackware 15, with the understanding that he may say no.
 
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:35 AM   #5
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There was a new website made, it wasn't accepted for some reason.

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We (Mark Post and myself with the help of others in the team) setup a whole new web site based on an off-the-shelf CMS back in 2012, with the possibility to post articles and looking almost identical in layout to the current site, but that was eventually not accepted by Pat for reasons I do not recall. I doubt that control over the web site will be delegated this time.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5884993
 
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:05 PM   #6
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well if you did a new website please tell me your not going to use Wordpress. I've just written a light CMS system for somebody that can't code on top of https://fatfreeframework.com/3.6/home What i like about f3 is that i was able to write fairly clean native php classes and methods, which means anybody knowing native PHP could read and understand. Bosca at f3 is pretty open minded so i can see that if there was a web site maybe the core code could be gitlab or somewhere , where for instance contributors could add their contributions on classes that intercept spam etc

I did have capacity for comments then decided it was time consuming to keep going to admin to authorize or not. My approach would be post url of blog onto some social media where , there is room for response.

What would be your approach to a website based on ?
 
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:16 PM   #7
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Perhaps it's just the way I was brought up but I would never join a forum and immediately start telling people who had been involved in the project for nearly 30 years how to improve things. Even if they did need improving.
 
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:59 PM   #8
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Perhaps it's just the way I was brought up but I would never join a forum and immediately start telling people who had been involved in the project for nearly 30 years how to improve things. Even if they did need improving.
You are not alone.
 
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:24 PM   #9
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Perhaps it's just the way I was brought up but I would never join a forum and immediately start telling people who had been involved in the project for nearly 30 years how to improve things. Even if they did need improving.
Based on his post, he has used Slackware for many years, though perhaps not consistently. Presumably, he joined the forum for the very purpose of bringing this up. Considering that his idea was proposed in a constructive way, I don't have a problem with it.
 
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:34 PM   #10
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Let me know your thoughts.
1. Create a mockup.
2. Ask for opinions and feedback.
3. Make corrections.
4. Tell Pat.

My 2 cents:

* Keep some of the original design heritage, such as the background.
* Don't use a CMS or framework.
* Don't use JS.
* Don't use anything dependent upon other providers, such as Google.
* Use forms.
* KISS.
 
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:31 AM   #11
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1. Create a mockup.
2. Ask for opinions and feedback.
3. Make corrections.
4. Tell Pat.

My 2 cents:

* Keep some of the original design heritage, such as the background.
* Don't use a CMS or framework.
* Don't use JS.
* Don't use anything dependent upon other providers, such as Google.
* Use forms.
* KISS.
And make sure you code the entire site only in Emacs or Vim.
 
Old 10-03-2019, 09:14 AM   #12
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And make sure you code the entire site only in Emacs or Vim.
???
Oh Brother
 
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:12 PM   #13
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???
Oh Brother
Am I bullying Upnort?
 
Old 10-04-2019, 09:21 PM   #14
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Am I bullying Upnort?
Looked like dry humor to me.
 
Old 10-05-2019, 02:02 AM   #15
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I have always looked at Slackware as offering a simple and clean approach to Linux and it would be great if any rebuilt website could reflect this. I am not volunteering a sample but perhaps something along the lines of the slrn website would suit:

http://slrn.sourceforge.net

This is an HTML5 site, CSS structured, handwritten clean HTML, a very simple look and importantly the bottom right has a button that show the site has been Lynx inspected . It would be easy enough to develop from such a site and I am sure the current web developer would even provide a template.

Just my 5 cents worth...
 
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