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Old 09-27-2018, 02:31 PM   #61
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Steam and Slackware vs. Slackware64


Yes, you'll definitely have more games work if you go to Slackware64, and then add Alien Bob's multilib. One fun thing with Steam is that some games only ship 64-bit versions while some other games only ship 32-bit versions. Last I actually looked, this was the case on both Windows and Linux.
 
Old 09-30-2018, 08:10 AM   #62
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Sorry to be a pain. I am now running Current64 and i have steam installed from alienbobs package.

When i try to run it I accept the license then get.

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Error: You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:
libc.so.6
Im confused on a few things.

Where do i get the libc.so.6?

Im not sure exactly how to compile it as a 32 bit app. Based on alienbobs instructions i have to do a convertpkg-compat32 -i once i get the libc.so.6 package

Again sorry for all the questions. Im new to doing this so be easy on me.
 
Old 09-30-2018, 08:25 AM   #63
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Where do i get the libc.so.6?

Im not sure exactly how to compile it as a 32 bit app. Based on alienbobs instructions i have to do a convertpkg-compat32 -i once i get the libc.so.6 package
You'll need to have a read of this:

https://docs.slackware.com/slackware:multilib

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Again sorry for all the questions. Im new to doing this so be easy on me.
Then why are you running -current?
 
Old 09-30-2018, 08:58 AM   #64
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You'll need to have a read of this:

https://docs.slackware.com/slackware:multilib



Then why are you running -current?

Thanks for the link. Ill check it out.

Im using current64 because i want to learn how to handle the multilibs. Im also wanting to get steam working properly. Seems like a good challange. Thanks for the help.
 
Old 09-30-2018, 09:13 AM   #65
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You can use multilib with 14.2 just fine.
 
Old 09-30-2018, 09:30 AM   #66
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The fix was to run upgradepkg on the following packages. For some reason they didn't get upgraded during the process of installing the multilibs. Im sure I screwed it up somehow. lol

glibc-i18n-2.28_multilib-x86_64-3alien.txz
glibc-profile-2.28_multilib-x86_64-3alien.txz
glibc-solibs-2.28_multilib-x86_64-3alien.txz

Now steam opens.

Thanks for the help.
 
Old 09-30-2018, 09:32 AM   #67
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Please forgive this long-winded, tangential response as I just woke up and haven't yet had my nicotine and caffeine fixes this morning. I'll eat breakfast later.

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Sorry to be a pain. I am now running Current64 <snip>
Again sorry for all the questions. Im new to doing this so be easy on me.
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Then why are you running -current?
I can't speak for Hooks123 but I'd like to comment on my take of this phenomenon. My first reaction was/is that it's a knee-jerk response programmed in by Microsoft to always desire the new "latest and greatest". However that too is a Pavlovian response on my part since in computing, being so early in it's development and with so much rapid change early on every player involved pretty much rightfully pushed that reaction. Thinking about it a little more it didn't start with Computing. It began with Consumerism and was given a cancerous boost by mass communication as soon as Radio was in most homes funded by corporate advertisement which is where "The Soaps" started. By the time TV took off we were well on the way.

Prior to the 20th Century people maintained what they had as much as they could and hoped to pass it on to their offspring and hopefully to their offspring as well as a means to amass capital so each succeeding generation "had a leg up". Things were built to last when this was the order of the day but once style and status took over most things were designed to last at most five years since by then they were out of style and an indication of some level of poverty if they weren't "upgraded".

The rapid growth of the automobile industry and the need for solid transportation morphed into the single most important status symbol because cars are so public which is one of the reasons comments have been made about "Rednecks" who live in cheap, funky mobile homes they rent but have the latest $30,000 pickup in the driveway which rarely even has a carport let alone a garage which to them doesn't matter much since within just a few years it will be "yesterday's newspaper" and traded in on a new model insuring that family is always living hand to mouth for themselves from spending the bulk of their income on monthly payments rarely owning anything, just leasing usage.

Corporations ring the bells, and we all salivate to have the appearance of being "up to date", "in the loop" and financially fluid, when in fact we are, for the most part, cultivated cash cows. We are all nearly completely and instinctively convinced that NEW == IMPROVED.

In the realm of Computing, since most people's tower PCs are or were kept in some special, out of the way, room and because the bulk of the population aren't software developers and don't give a damn about code, first Laptops and then Smartphones became the New Wave exactly because they better fit the Consumerism Status Paradigm being publicly displayed, handling what most consumers want, Entertainment, Communication and Social Media AND are made cheaply enough that a 2 year old phone seems Ancient History even though they still make calls (few care about email anymore - too much maintenance), probably handle music, photos and possibly videos just fine but a 2 year old phone doesn't make us look Hip even if much of what that new phone actually does is just bloat. Hey it looks cooler talking around the coffee machine or water cooler.

Hooks123, there's no real need to apologise, we are all victims of this programming but still, Lysander was absolutely right that it is less than wise for someone new to Slackware, let alone new to Linux, to be running Current. If you are convinced you really do need "New and Improved" and are willing to accept considerable risk rather than stick with "Tried and True", Solid and Reliable (even though the difference other than the risk is very little) you might want to consider some Rolling Release that requires weekly, if not Daily maintenance, continually feeding your Limbic System the addiction reinforcement of "Yeah! That's it! Do more of that! That's GOOD for ya".

Either that or "Hi my name is Todd and I'm an addict. I haven't logged onto Facebook in 5 days. I'm doing OK but I'm a little twitchy."

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Old 10-01-2018, 09:32 AM   #68
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Just played DOOM (2016) for the past 2 hours on -current, and wow i was not expecting it to play so well. Had one crash when switching from opengl to vulkan, but besides that it runs just fine.
I have had a similar experience. Being able to play DOOM on Slackware makes this man very happy.
 
Old 10-01-2018, 09:58 AM   #69
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Hooks123, there's no real need to apologise, we are all victims of this programming but still, Lysander was absolutely right that it is less than wise for someone new to Slackware, let alone new to Linux, to be running Current.
I think it's absolutely enthralling to see a newbie so into the dogma of Slackware that he is willing to dive into the deep end. I've seen so many people be timid and not persist beyond the first few mistakes they make, decide Slackware is not for them, and move on to something else. I say let him be. He will make mistakes and/or change his hardware setup a few times, and have to reinstall, but who among us hasn't done that a few times?

@Hooks123: It's encouraging to see you so enthusiastic about learning Slackware. The learning curve is steep, but the rewards are great. You can do a search on this forum for posts about the strengths of Slackware, if you so desire. Take care, and have fun!
 
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Old 10-01-2018, 01:11 PM   #70
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I think it's absolutely enthralling to see a newbie so into the dogma of Slackware that he is willing to dive into the deep end. I've seen so many people be timid and not persist beyond the first few mistakes they make, decide Slackware is not for them, and move on to something else. I say let him be. He will make mistakes and/or change his hardware setup a few times, and have to reinstall, but who among us hasn't done that a few times?

@Hooks123: It's encouraging to see you so enthusiastic about learning Slackware. The learning curve is steep, but the rewards are great. You can do a search on this forum for posts about the strengths of Slackware, if you so desire. Take care, and have fun!
You're absolutely right and I should have offered a suggestion of 14.2 (Stable) in addition to Current (Testing) as a dual boot option, which in itself exposes many to deeper areas of "owning your boxen" as well as offering a Failsafe and Easy Recovery path if and when an "oopsie" occurs in Current. My initial intent was merely just to note food for thought for all of us to question our "need" to have up-to-the-minute software and pick and choose carefully not just apply the "upgrade" in all cases.
 
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:18 PM   #71
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thanks guys. Not sure that im a newbie but im pretty close (maybe a senior newbie) lol. I have been tinkering with Slackware for years (Maybe since version 11). I just never tinkered to much. Like powerslacker said, I would load it and dual boot with windows and just play around with it. I didn't learn a lot because all i did was play with the default apps. Then something would come up and i would switch back to windows.

Now that i can connect to work reliably I can screw up my install and play around all i want. I know that i can reload Slackware and be back in business in less than an hour. It is so liberating not to have windows dual booting. My big fear was messing up lilo which i have done numerous times and then have to reload windows which resulted in me being up half the night.

I've always loved Slackware because i agree with the unix philosophy 1 program do one thing only and really like the Slackware community and the whole idea of it.

Things i have accomplished over the past week.

1. Ditch Windows
2. Got Citrix receiver working. Now its called Citrix Workspace.
3. Got all 4 hard drives set up and partitioned how i want them.
4. Got Tresorit working and on its own partition.
5. Installed Sylpheed Email via sbopkg.
6. Got multilib working.
7. Got most of my Steam games working. Bonus is most of my kids games work on Steam and i am getting ready to purchase 2 computers for the kids which will run Slackware64 for their homework and Steam games.

I really appreciate this forum. It is really helpful. thanks again
 
Old 10-01-2018, 04:28 PM   #72
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i am getting ready to purchase 2 computers for the kids which will run Slackware64 for their homework and Steam games.
This is just awesome. What a great example to set.

EDIT: and well done for ditching Windows and going full Slack. LILO is very simple and logical, I like it more the more I understand it.

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Old 10-02-2018, 12:31 AM   #73
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LILO is very simple and logical, I like it more the more I understand it.
Totally agree. I was ecstatic to learn about LILO's being patched to understand NVME drives; that way I can have the latest technology running with Old Faithful.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:10 AM   #74
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At the end of July I dove head first back into Linux after not touching it in a number of years.. I briefly ran 14.2, accidentally killed it and decided to switch to current for fun and to have more up to date software.

You know what was really funny?

Installing Bob's 14.2 Multilib packages on current. Whoops! Kernel panic city.

But it's a learning experience and if I ever seriously needed things to be rock solid I wouldn't be running current, I'd install 14.2, update it, get everything ironed out, and stop messing with it.

Back to the general steam topic.. kind of.

I've been playing a 16 bit style RPG called CrossCode that released recently. It has a native linux client on Steam. Been enjoying that a lot. It's a weird game written in html5 running inside a chromium container.. but it works well.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:20 AM   #75
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You know what was really funny?
This sentence:

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I briefly ran 14.2, accidentally killed it and decided to switch to current
The more times I read it, the more absurd it becomes.

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...and to have more up to date software
Those of us who have emigrated from Debian stable aren't bothered by older packages. As long as it does what it's supposed to do, I'm happy.

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