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Old 04-13-2002, 01:31 PM   #16
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Sounds good to me Aussie.

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Old 04-14-2002, 07:55 PM   #17
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Slackware ( and debian ) are kind of unique when it comes to the popular distro's, the main reason is they don't use rpm's and they sail a close tack to the unix standard, in the case of slack you can even say that it's the closest thing to BSD that you can have and still run linux. Slack is also the oldest distro still being maintained. Gentoo is an interesting distro and one that I intend to have a verry close look and I think that it has a lot of promise.
There are some vital differences, though. Slackware is a commercial distribution while Debian is not; Slackware has no package manager worth the name while Debian has the best package manager of the lot.
 
Old 04-14-2002, 09:03 PM   #18
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There are some vital differences, though. Slackware is a commercial distribution while Debian is not; Slackware has no package manager worth the name while Debian has the best package manager of the lot.
Ummm, as for your saying it being a commercial distribution you mean that it's sold in stores, yes but so are different versions of debian. As far as package managment, the .tgz packages are more universal than a .deb and pkgtool is quite good for managment and much more simple than others. On the whole, this is a Slack forum and if you don't use or like it, then you don't have to be here.
 
Old 04-15-2002, 02:27 AM   #19
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hey? i finally found this forum after wandering around for several days... lol! man was i lost...
okok so here i am and let's get things kicking...
 
Old 04-18-2002, 11:42 PM   #20
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i ws about to say the same thing

I'm so happy i changed my mind about linux distros a zillion times before i end up with Slackware . thank you guys .
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1 Slack
(slack) a. not taut ; not closely drawn together ; not holding fast ; remiss about one's duties ; easy going ; n. part of a rope wich hangs loose ; quiet time . -en v.t. to loosen to moderate ; to relax ; to leave undone ; to slack ; v.i. to become slack ; to cohesion ; to dodge work ; to languish ; to flag . B]-er[/B]
n. one who shirks work .-ly adv.B]-ness[/B] n. -s n.pl. loose trousers worn by men or women.
2 Slack
(slack) n. the finer screenings of coal which pass through a half-inch mesh ; coal dust ; dross
 
Old 04-19-2002, 07:53 AM   #21
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mmmmmm... slackware forum. *drools*
 
Old 04-25-2002, 02:37 AM   #22
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I'm not sure if this is the place to post this or even if I'm posting in the correct manner. Till now, I've not been a habitue of these venues, so bear with me if I don't get it right the first time out (or the 2nd, etc.).

I'm running Slack 8.0 with kernel 2.4.5 with the Reiser FS. I'm having problems with run time loading of some modules and also, I am overwhelmed by the daunting complexities of trying to get my Hewlet Packard 6P laserjet to print more than plain ascii. It would seem that the only way to get decent printing with this printer is to use CUPS. Has anyone installed this on Slackware? The dependencies are enough to drive me over to Mandrake. I have lpd set up with spooling. I'm using the ljet4 and lj5mono device selection with the version of ghostscript that comes with Slack 8. Ghostscript will send a page to the printer, and the printer spits out a page, but all it has on it is a line of something like "GS>GS<GS> " etc. with a few numerals interspersed. It sure would seem that gs doesn't speak my printer's language. The printer works fine when I sent plain ascii text directly to it without gs.

The run-time loadable modules that I've had trouble with are the vfat file system module, the msdos fs module, the compression drivers for the HAM modem (the Ham driver itself works fine), and the parport (parallel port) modules. All these drivers work fine when compiled into the kernel. The modules build and install looks fine to me. Also, I don't believe I had any problems with loadable modules when I was running kernel 2.2.19. I didn't check the syslog though, so I may have had unsuspected problems. Probably not though.

I've been able to work around the loadable modules problems by simply building a bigger kernel, but the printing problem is looming quite daunting. Lack of printing is likely to prove a stopper for me. Downloading all the packages needed for CUPS and ghostscript, then building it all and configuring it seems like an exercise in futility. The Cups folks don't really support Slackware. They offer RPMs for the more popular distros, and source along with a book length set of instructions and dependencies for everyone else. Is anyone else out there using the HP-6P successfully on Slackware? If so, I'd sure like a little encouragement and tips on how best to do this. If I take this on and break something, I may be forced to go with Mandrake 8.2. That would be a shame, as so far, I've been able to get things going pretty well with Slackware and am getting fairly comfortable with it. I like its traditional unix philosophy a lot. I managed to get graphic support with my Nvidia card by installing a later XFree86, and struggled thru setting up sendmail and fetchmail. But printing set up with this printer is frankly tortuous, archaic, and arcane. Partrick, are you reading this?

Please, can somebody help?
Sez,
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Old 04-25-2002, 03:03 AM   #23
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I had a few module problems with the default 2.4.5 kernel, all fixed after an upgrade though. I'm also using cups with gimp-print for my HP printer, it's a deskjet but HP support seems to be better with cups, and the gimp-print drivers are excellent.
 
Old 04-25-2002, 03:16 AM   #24
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what are cups?
 
Old 04-25-2002, 03:28 AM   #25
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what are cups?
http://www.cups.org/
 
Old 04-25-2002, 03:50 AM   #26
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thanks
 
Old 04-25-2002, 08:27 AM   #27
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There is a printing FAQ at http://www.userlocal.com/articles/sl...rintingFAQ.txt
I haven't tried it yet but I believe it does work. Please note it is specific to slack 8.0 as this version of slackware has broken printing.
 
Old 04-26-2002, 01:18 AM   #28
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Smile Thanks Richard James and Aussie

Thanks Richard James, for pointing me to the Slackware printing article. I checked it out. Interesting. I think it might prove helpful for some, especially those lucky folks with the drivers they need already built into ghostscript 5.5. That ain't me, unfortunately. To be honest, tho, the solution offered at that web page looks almost as involved as the CUPS solution.
Thanks Aussie for the info about your also experiencing modules trouble with Slack 8.0's default 2.4.5 kernel. It's encouraging to know I'm not the only one with such difficulties. I will have to try upgrading my kernel, soon. Which version are you now using, Aussie?

Thanks also for the encouraging words regarding CUPS. For anyone scratching their head, that's the "Common Unix Printing System", a promising new development project n the Unix world, as printing has been a very messy subject on the Unices. The most popular distros all seem to be moving toward this solution. Under CUPS, I understand there is a utility included that generates a PDF (Printer Definition File) automatically for your printer using information it finds in the on-line printer database. CUPS also provides drivers for nearly every printer there is. The only exceptions seem to be the So called "Windows printers" that don't speak a printer language of any kind and rely on Windows to do much of the work that traditionally has always been done within the printer's logic circutry. Does this Remind anyone of the nefarious Winmodems? Buyers beware!

Anyway, it still seems a daunting chore to download all the parts for CUPS and FOOMATIC and ESP-Ghostscript etc. and to set it all up, but after checking into the cost of a PostScript simm module for the HP-6P (~$250), I shall give CUPS a go.
I haven't much to lose at this point. There is always Mandrake or Lycoris if I get stuck. I have two unused partitions on my second drive and I've been meaning to install Lycoris on one of them. Once I get CUPS printing (the default system) on Lycoris, I can go ahead and copy whatever I need over to Slack. It may be cheating, but when dealing with an intractible printer setup, one is entitled to pull out all the stops, right?
Of course, there is always a chance I might actually like Lycoris. Nah! What am I saying? I'm sorry. Really! I take it back!! See, I'm getting carpel tunnel syndrome in my right index finger!!!! AAAARRRGGGHHH

For anybody else out there having troubles getting their printer to print formatted text like a Windows setup, it may not be easy to get it working, and in fact in a lot of cases, not all of your printer's functionality is accessible in Linux in any case, but nice results are possible with most machines, including color bubble jets, and even dot matrix, or so says the Linux Printing Org, the on-line info center for Linux printing. It's a terrific site, offering a whole host of possible solutions, ranging from the straight forward to the downright scarry, depending on how well your printer is supported in the unix world.

Sez Ramcrammer1
 
Old 04-26-2002, 01:19 AM   #29
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Smile Thanks Richard James and Aussie

Thanks Richard James for pointing me to the Slackware printing article. I checked it out. Interesting. I think it might prove helpful for some, especially those lucky folks with the drivers they need already built into ghostscript 5.5. That ain't me, unfortunately. To be honest, tho, the solution offered at that web page looks almost as involved as the CUPS solution.
Thanks Aussie for the info about your also experiencing modules trouble with Slack 8.0's default 2.4.5 kernel. It's encouraging to know I'm not the only one with such difficulties. I will have to try upgrading my kernel, soon. Which version are you now using, Aussie?

Thanks also for the encouraging words regarding CUPS. For anyone scratching their head, that's the "Common Unix Printing System", a promising new development project n the Unix world, as printing has been a very messy subject on the Unices. The most popular distros all seem to be moving toward this solution. Under CUPS, I understand there is a utility included that generates a PDF (Printer Definition File) automatically for your printer using information it finds in the on-line printer database. CUPS also provides drivers for nearly every printer there is. The only exceptions seem to be the So called "Windows printers" that don't speak a printer language of any kind and rely on Windows to do much of the work that traditionally has always been done within the printer's logic circutry. Does this Remind anyone of the nefarious Winmodems? Buyers beware!

Anyway, it still seems a daunting chore to download all the parts for CUPS and FOOMATIC and ESP-Ghostscript etc. and to set it all up, but after checking into the cost of a PostScript simm module for the HP-6P (~$250), I shall give CUPS a go.
I haven't much to lose at this point. There is always Mandrake or Lycoris if I get stuck. I have two unused partitions on my second drive and I've been meaning to install Lycoris on one of them. Once I get CUPS printing (the default system) on Lycoris, I can go ahead and copy whatever I need over to Slack. It may be cheating, but when dealing with an intractible printer setup, one is entitled to pull out all the stops, right?
Of course, there is always a chance I might actually like Lycoris. Nah! What am I saying? I'm sorry. Really! I take it back!! See, I'm getting carpel tunnel syndrome in my right index finger!!!! AAAARRRGGGHHH

For anybody else out there having troubles getting their printer to print formatted text like a Windows setup, it may not be easy to get it working, and in fact in a lot of cases, not all of your printer's functionality is accessible in Linux in any case, but nice results are possible with most machines, including color bubble jets, and even dot matrix, or so says the Linux Printing Org, the on-line info center for Linux printing. It's a terrific site, offering a whole host of possible solutions, ranging from the straight forward to the downright scarry, depending on how well your printer is supported in the unix world.

Sez Ramcrammer1
 
Old 04-26-2002, 01:26 AM   #30
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I'm using kernel-2.4.18 and I'll be installing 2.4.19 as soon as its out because it has a heap of usb updates in it.
 
  


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