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timetraveler 07-09-2010 08:18 PM

new 13.1 install observations
 
2nd and 3rd might be linux kernel problems but may help someone else so I included here.


1st -- run level 4, /etc/rc.d/rc.4 and xdm -nodaemon

Just installed 13.1 on an odd system, including building a new kernel.
One thing I do is have the system boot to a command prompt and then run /etc/rc.d/rc.4 to start X

But I found that the rc.4 uses xdm -nodaemon flag and it was causing problems so I removed and all is pretty good. I still see some odd behavior with the virtual ttys sometimes.

2nd -- when building a new kernel, I found I need the device-mapper but
couldn't tell if that was a linux kernel issue or something to do with lilo, I didn't want and don't need multiple disk devices like for LVM or MD so I didn't plan to have this enabled.


3rd -- CONFIG_EXT4_USE_FOR_EXT23
When that kernel config option was selected and I have only an EXT4 filesystem, the filesystem was mounted as an EXT2, even though the kernel had no EXT2 feature. /etc/fstab specified EXT4 but the mount command showed EXT2. A silent problem that could leave an unpleasant surprise since EXT2 hos no journaling.

4th -- I had to run lilo -C by hand in a virtual tty before finishing the install. This was what I had to do when installing 13.0 on different hardware. It seems that the lilo part of the install needs some sorting out.

damgar 07-09-2010 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timetraveler (Post 4028799)
2nd and 3rd might be linux kernel problems but may help someone else so I included here.


1st -- run level 4, /etc/rc.d/rc.4 and xdm -nodaemon

Just installed 13.1 on an odd system, including building a new kernel.
One thing I do is have the system boot to a command prompt and then run /etc/rc.d/rc.4 to start X

But I found that the rc.4 uses xdm -nodaemon flag and it was causing problems so I removed and all is pretty good. I still see some odd behavior with the virtual ttys sometimes.

I'm assuming you don't have kdm installed because xdm is the third and final choice? Your system should try gdm first, then again in a different location, then kdm, then xdm. Secondly why do you do you run the rc.4 script that way? Why not just
Code:

init 4

H_TeXMeX_H 07-10-2010 03:57 AM

You don't actually need device-mapper, only lilo complains about it. I disabled it in the kernel and there's no problem.

timetraveler 07-10-2010 04:13 PM

lilo shouldn't have a dependency on device-mapper, it's a bug.

syg00 07-10-2010 06:49 PM

If it only complains, it's not a dependency. Nor a bug.
Not that I've used lilo (by choice) in a lot of years.

FWIW, I haven't used Slack for a few years, and found the (x86_64) 13.1 install process much improved over my previous experiences.

onebuck 07-11-2010 09:03 AM

Hi,

I find the new Slackware 13.1 to be a very much improved and a speedy install. Looking forward to Slackware 14.0;

Quote:

excerpt from Slackware 14.0:
Slackware Linux 13.1 version notices:
The doDownload.com constantly monitors the update of all programs, including information from Slackware Linux 13.1 changelog, however sometimes it can happen that data are not complete or are outdated.We assume that the Slackware Linux Inc. continues to develop Slackware Linux 13.2 with further advanced features, and soon you will find it here. Equally important upgrades of program Slackware Linux 14.0 download we will continue to watch. To read more about the Slackware Linux 14.0 software evaluations visit us again soon.

Just some fun FUD. :)

:hattip:

Lufbery 07-11-2010 10:16 AM

Good lord, is that even in English?

onebuck 07-11-2010 11:38 AM

Hi,
If you like that one then look at ''The UNIX versus NT Organization' or 'Top 10 Linux FUD Patterns, Part 1.
:hattip:

sahko 07-11-2010 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timetraveler (Post 4029427)
lilo shouldn't have a dependency on device-mapper, it's a bug.

Its not a bug, lilo links against libdevmapper.so

rkelsen 07-14-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timetraveler (Post 4028799)
One thing I do is have the system boot to a command prompt and then run /etc/rc.d/rc.4 to start X

... or you could follow the instructions and edit /etc/inittab to boot straight into runlevel 4.


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