Everyone,

I hate to bother you with yet another question, but hear me out... before posting here, I went to the Gaim page and read the relevant portion of the FAQ, but I needed clarification on a portion... so I went to their contact page, and they suggested I visit there IRC channel. So I did. I asked my question in there, and got laughed at condescended for using Slackware and asking such a question. They suggested I use Fedora or Debian instead since they have better package management. I defended .tgz a bit, but they just continued to mock me, so I said I prefer compiling from source anyway. What a bunch of guys. I've never once been made fun of or talked down to on this forum. There's my story, and here I am yet again with a new question.

Okay, so according to the Gaim FAQ, to get MSN support you have to configure with SSL when compiling. Here is there example:This is done after adding /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4 to /etc/ld.so.conf.

Okay, so if I'm running Firefox instead of Mozilla, then I need to add /usr/lib/firefox to /etc/ld.so.conf instead. Fine.

the "with-nss-libs" and "with-nspr-libs" are fine to since they can be changed to /usr/lib/firefox aswell... but "with-nss-includes" and "with-nspr-includes" are confusing me because there is no /usr/include/firefox. I don't know what path to put for those to arguments. "slocate nss | grep firefox" just points me back to /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.2, and I doubt that I'm supposed to put /usr/lib/firefox for all 4 of those arguments.

Sorry for the round-about post, but why not use Kopete?

I am using Kopete right now. Mostly, I just like the look & feel of Gaim better. A small part of me wants to not rely on KDE/Qt apps since I am using FluxBox instead of KDE now. Another part of me says I may as well learn.

I don't think it's possible to actually build Gaim *without* Mozilla, as Firefox does not have the nss includes, only the libraries (which allow us to run a pre-built Gaim with Mozilla, but not to build one).

seems awfully weird that someone would build an app that requires moz to be installed. if that's the case, I guess I'll be sticking with kopete.

You can build Gaim without Mozilla's NSS libraries, and use GnuTLS (which is what the Gaim developers recommend, according to their website). However, Pat sticks to using Mozilla so that he doesn't require GnuTLS and all it's dependencies to be installed and maintained for the sake of one application (see the entry for Mozilla being restored in the -current ChangeLog).