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Old 01-25-2019, 11:58 AM   #1
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Moving to -current from 14.2

Hi all, I'm looking for some advice. I'm considering moving to -current from 14.2. The reason for this is 14.2 is getting a bit long in the tooth and I can't (easily) do some things I want to do. For example:

I want to upgrade from an older version of Kmymoney but I can't because it requires a newer version of gcc to compile than 14.2 has. Replacing gcc to accomplish this would be, um, non-trivial.

I'd like to use newer versions of Plasma 5, but that's only available for -current. Once again, I could roll my own, but that's similarly non-trivial.

My concern is that there is nothing in the changelog that seems to indicate that 15.0 is anywhere close (although only our esteemed BDFL would know for sure). I would be using this on a machine that I rely on every day for work. Something breaking would potentially be Really Bad (tm). Since we are still deep in development, the possibility of breakage would seem likely. I'd like to hear anybody's thoughts or insight into this. The only time I've ever run -current before was when it had reached release candidate status.
Old 01-25-2019, 12:33 PM   #2
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If you're worried about something breaking or what-not after an update, you could always just wait a few days after an update and check these forums (and other places) to see if anybody's reported a problem and if it's something that might affect you, you could choose not to update until whatever the issue is gets fixed.
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If you need stable, then you need to run stable.. Which is 14.2. That is my 2 cents. I get that you would like a newer Plasma but its hard to imagine you *need* that. What you could do for Kmymoney would be install current in an LCX container; or even just a chroot enviornment and run that application from there.
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:37 PM   #4
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Moving to -current from 14.2

My 2c :

Just mirror the current repo. Wait a few days for feedback. If nothing comes up, go and upgrade. If there's a problem, wait few more days to see the fix. Sync and restart process.

Or :
Sync the repo. Do a clean install on a separate partition. Initial system will be for rescue.

Or :
Try Eric's live Slackware Plasma flavored with persistence on a USB stick. Make your tests. If everything goes well, install using the dedicated script.
Old 01-25-2019, 12:42 PM   #5
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If you look forward at Plasma 5, be aware at ICU updates on -current. Always.

If you see updates for ICU, you should definitively stop updating your -current until Mr. Hameleers release patches for it on his KTown.

Otherwise you will discover disappointed that Plasma 5 stopped to work completely and XFCE will be your friend.

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Old 01-25-2019, 05:21 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by marnold View Post
I want to upgrade from an older version of Kmymoney but I can't because it requires a newer version of gcc to compile than 14.2 has. Replacing gcc to accomplish this would be, um, non-trivial.
You'll find the latest kmymoney in my Plasma5 package set by the way.

As some people already told you, it's usually safe to run -current as your daily driver. I do it myself. Just don't jump and grab every update the day it's released. Observe this forum for any breakage. Updates of the boost, icu4c, poppler packages will raise a red flag for any 3rd party package. Wait for 3rd party packages (like my Plasma5, libreoffice etc) to get recompiled.

Nevertheless, I offer a boost-compat and a icu4c-compat package in my repository. Installing those will put a bandaid on your system by providing the older library versions which are still required by 3rd party packages until those are recompiled.
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Old 01-25-2019, 06:26 PM   #7
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I recently decided to try current: I went with the dual boot, 14.2, or current, sharing the same home directory--so far so good, except that now I have a split personality... and the changes change faster than I drive!
Old 01-25-2019, 06:49 PM   #8
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As you become more acquainted with the system, you will be able to recognize when changes in the Change Log could be disruptive. The trick is to read the Change Log before updating, ALWAYS. I have yet to run into any major issues doing so with slackpkg. I just read /var/lib/slackpkg/ChangeLog.txt each day. A helpful way to watch the Change Log is by reading the RSS feeds. If you want to see exactly what is going on in development, see AlienBOB's git repo that tracks current. If you use any 3rd party repositories, check their home page for a more detailed update as well. AlienBOB's blog tracks all his 3rd party package updates on the front page.
Old 01-26-2019, 07:00 PM   #9
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Thanks for the insight, everybody. We're probably going to be snowed in tomorrow and Monday so it might be a good time to give it a spin.

And Eric, it's good to know that kmymoney is in your Plasma 5 setup now. That's a must-have for me.

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