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Old 08-23-2014, 04:26 PM   #106
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I liked your earlier version of the KDE desktop. Looking forward to the new one when it's ready.
 
Old 08-24-2014, 01:14 AM   #107
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I liked your earlier version of the KDE desktop. Looking forward to the new one when it's ready.
If you're curious about what's brewing under the hood, check out the Github repo:

$ git clone https://github.com/kikinovak/slackware

Don't use that stuff yet, it might eat your hamster.
 
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Old 08-24-2014, 10:39 AM   #108
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Don't use that stuff yet, it might eat your hamster.
Looks nice. I'm looking forward to giving it a test when it's at the testing stage.
 
Old 08-24-2014, 01:24 PM   #109
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Hello kikinovak,

Just to make sure I get it right: your plan for a KDE respin is to install the/some KDE packages of stock Slackware and deal with the "heavy on resources" reputation of KDE with configuration files so that only minimal KDE services/processes are started. And, of course, you'll customize the desktop to look beautiful, just like you did before for the XFCE and MATE flavors
 
Old 08-24-2014, 02:08 PM   #110
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Hello kikinovak,

Just to make sure I get it right: your plan for a KDE respin is to install the/some KDE packages of stock Slackware and deal with the "heavy on resources" reputation of KDE with configuration files so that only minimal KDE services/processes are started. And, of course, you'll customize the desktop to look beautiful, just like you did before for the XFCE and MATE flavors
Yes, exactly. I already have something working here locally, and I'm quite enthusiastic about the first results. In short, I've trimmed down the official package selection (yes, I'll provide tagfiles). A handful of core KDE packages are rebuilt in order to have a nice and consistent visual configuration. The default user profile deactivates some resource hogs like indexation and graphic effects. The underlying principle is one-app-per-task, and some KDE heavyweights are replaced by some more lightweight counterparts while being visually integrated. Last but not least, some KDE packages like K3B are rebuilt against a full set of multimedia libs to offer full functionality.

After a few months of trial and error, I've come to the conclusion that a lightweight KDE desktop may be the better choice, for a host of reasons. Let me think of a few.
  1. Some KDE applications like Dolphin, Okular, Digikam or K3B are simply the best.
  2. There's already much more stuff included than in Xfce, so I have to take care of less additional packages.
  3. There's a login manager included! No more SLIM or GDM hassle!
  4. KWin has some nice graphical effects included, so no need to build Compiz and the likes.
  5. The default Oxygen theme already looks professional and doesn't have that "east german look" that most GTK environments default to.
  6. The 32-bit version consumes about 200 MB RAM with a loaded desktop, and with resource hogs disabled, runs perfectly on ten year old hardware.
  7. Last but not least, KDE's perennity is safe compared to other desktops.

Of course, there are also some things I don't like. But hey, nothing's perfect. As the late French president François Mitterrad once stated when a reporter confronted him with a change of heart: "Y'a que les imbéciles qui changent pas d'avis." Only fools never change their mind.

Cheers,

Niki
 
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:46 AM   #111
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The default Oxygen theme
i have experienced problems with the GTK version of it. Some programs won't start (ClamTK), other just look plain ugly (Firefox).
 
Old 08-25-2014, 09:34 AM   #112
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i have experienced problems with the GTK version of it. Some programs won't start (ClamTK), other just look plain ugly (Firefox).
oxygen-gtk was buggy in Slackware 14.0, but it works perfectly now.
 
Old 09-07-2014, 02:40 AM   #113
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Here's some fresh news from the MLED front. Work has been making good progress this last week.

1. MLED (Microlinux Enterprise Desktop) is almost ready. It's based on KDE 4.10.5, a trimmed-down version with a few extra applications. In short, it's the Slackware-based equivalent of what you get when you run a Slax Live CD, only with more apps. I have a 32-bit and a 64-bit version for Slackware 14.1. This is already running fine on my main workhorse PC, and it comes very close in functionality to what I want from a complete no-nonsense Linux desktop.

2. Maintaining two different desktop environments is a lot of work. On the other hand, I have a few clients whose hardware is not very powerful. I found a compromise for that : MLTC (Microlinux Thin Client). In short, it's based on Xfce, with a minimal set of more or less lightweight applications, with some nice artwork, and it has to run satisfyingly on an old test box I have here, a battered first-generation PIV with 512 MB RAM. MLTC will ship in a 32-bit version only, and it's targeted specifically at old hardware.

3. MLES (Microlinux Enterprise Server) is the grandly named repo for my own server stuff (things like Squid, SquidGuard, Postfix, Dovecot, Postgrey, etc.)

I'll keep you posted as soon as I upload that stuff. Expect something around next weekend. In the meantime, you can follow progress on Github:

$ git clone https://github.com/kikinovak/slackware

Cheers,

Niki
 
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Old 09-07-2014, 05:05 AM   #114
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So, MLED Mate edition is discontinued ?
 
Old 09-07-2014, 08:43 AM   #115
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Looks nice, looking forward to trying it out.
 
Old 09-07-2014, 10:31 AM   #116
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So, MLED Mate edition is discontinued ?
Yes, in favour of a lightweight version of KDE. I've been testing all three desktops in production environments over the last three months, and it looks like the lightweight KDE is a (close) winner.
 
  


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