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Old 04-14-2014, 03:40 PM   #31
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I was wondering why the installation instructions finish up with:

"Finish the base Slackware installation. Eventually, chroot into the newly installed environment and replace the HUGE kernel by the GENERIC kernel. That's what I usually do."

It doesn't really say why, is it a recommendation for running MLED or just something you do personally?
Since MLED is basically Slackware under the hood, this is the way folks are supposed to run Slackware.
 
Old 04-14-2014, 03:58 PM   #32
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Since MLED is basically Slackware under the hood, this is the way folks are supposed to run Slackware.
I'm not sure that's the case, the default kernel selected by the Slackware installer is huge.s, you just hit enter to boot it or hit F12 if you want something else.
 
Old 04-14-2014, 04:09 PM   #33
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This is exactly my feeling. Let's see if I can persuade folks to make the move.
The Whisker Menu for Xfce, as mentioned by Woodsman (thanks, again), would be a nice addition to MATE. I never cared for the default KDE menu, a la XP, but find the Whisker Menu to be the perfect compromise between the "classic" menu and the "XP style" menus.

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Old 04-14-2014, 04:29 PM   #34
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I'm not sure that's the case, the default kernel selected by the Slackware installer is huge.s, you just hit enter to boot it or hit F12 if you want something else.
That's during installation and even if you hit F2 you won't be proposed a generic kernel because at time of installation it couldn't boot by lack of the proper drivers built in.

But even if you can continue using a huge kernel afterwards, using a generic one is recommended (but of course not mandatory), as for instance that can help select the proper drivers for your devices. The only caveat is that you need to make an initrd for it.
 
Old 04-14-2014, 05:31 PM   #35
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The Whisker Menu for Xfce, as mentioned by Woodsman (thanks, again), would be a nice addition to MATE.
Does the Whisker menu support Mate?
 
Old 04-14-2014, 06:07 PM   #36
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Here's a n00bish question... is MLED only for French-speaking users?

All the screenies I glanced at show the French language on menus and such.

Thanks!
 
Old 04-14-2014, 06:15 PM   #37
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Does the Whisker menu support Mate?
Apparently, not.

http://gottcode.org/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/

As MATE and Xfce appear to be very similar, I wonder how hard it would be to tweak Whisker Menu to work in MATE? Not that I have the first clue as to where to begin. :-)

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Old 04-15-2014, 12:02 AM   #38
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I'm not sure that's the case, the default kernel selected by the Slackware installer is huge.s, you just hit enter to boot it or hit F12 if you want something else.
The HUGE kernel is a one-size-fits-all kernel that can be used for the installation phase. Once Slackware is installed, you're supposed to switch to the GENERIC kernel. Check out the README.initrd file:

http://mirrors.slackware.com/slackwa.../README.initrd

Cheers,

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Old 04-15-2014, 12:04 AM   #39
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The Whisker Menu for Xfce, as mentioned by Woodsman (thanks, again), would be a nice addition to MATE. I never cared for the default KDE menu, a la XP, but find the Whisker Menu to be the perfect compromise between the "classic" menu and the "XP style" menus.
I like it too. I even gave mintmenu a spin, but unfortunately it's quite complicated to integrate, and quite resource-hungry.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 12:12 AM   #40
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Niki:
Here's a n00bish question... is MLED only for French-speaking users?

All the screenies I glanced at show the French language on menus and such.

Thanks!
Hi Habitual,

No, of course not. MLED officially supports french, english and german, though you can of course define any other language under the sun. The "official" languages mainly concern the menu entries. IMHO, a minor flaw on many Linux desktops are the rather non-intuitive menu entries, what with the quirky application names and all (Caja? Pluma? Engrampa? WTF?). This can be solved quite easily, and since I fluently speak three languages, I rewrote nearly all the desktop menu entries and replaced them by something more intuitive (Burning Application, Instant Messaging, Word Processor, ...) and added a little script which installs these files. Using this script is not mandatory, so you can still use MLED even if you're hungarian or korean. Simply edit /etc/profile.d/lang.sh and set your language to something like en_US.utf8.

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Old 04-15-2014, 12:33 AM   #41
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Actually, it's a matter of choice. If you have no problem with huge kernel, then use it.
People use generic kernel so that they can decide which modules should be loaded and which should not.

For debugging purpose, it's easier to be done in generic, so that's why most article/people recommend to use generic kernel, even though you have to make an initrd for that before it can be used normally.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 08:26 AM   #42
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@willysr,
Many thanks for your MATE packages. It was a lot of hard work and is greatly appreciated.



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I like it too. I even gave mintmenu a spin, but unfortunately it's quite complicated to integrate, and quite resource-hungry.
You mean to incorporate the Whisker Menu into Xfce as the default application menu?
As to resources... you are the expert, but I just did an comparison of the standard application menu vs Whisker, using the task manager and GKrellm to check the memory usage. Just booting up to the Xfce desktop and giving it a few seconds to settle down, the Whisker menu appears to use 19 megs less memory than the standard application menu. OTOH, I might have been doing something wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.

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Old 04-15-2014, 08:34 AM   #43
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Hi Habitual,

No, of course not. MLED officially supports french, english and german...
Thanks!
 
Old 04-15-2014, 08:38 AM   #44
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@willysr,
Many thanks for your MATE packages. It was a lot of hard work and is greatly appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed it
 
Old 04-15-2014, 01:02 PM   #45
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The HUGE kernel is a one-size-fits-all kernel that can be used for the installation phase. Once Slackware is installed, you're supposed to switch to the GENERIC kernel. Check out the README.initrd file:

http://mirrors.slackware.com/slackwa.../README.initrd

Cheers,

Niki
Thank you (and the others), I'll have a read...good luck with the project!
 
  


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