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Old 01-01-2013, 10:16 AM   #1
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MLED 14.0 released!


Hello fellow Slackers,

Happy new year to all of you.

It's been a few months in the making, and now here it is:

http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/14.0/

General description and detailed installation instructions:

http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/14.0/README_MLED.TXT

Enjoy!

Niki
 
Old 01-01-2013, 10:21 AM   #2
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Very cool, man!! Thanks for doing this, Niki. Happy New Year!
 
Old 01-04-2013, 11:00 PM   #3
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This looks really interesting!
Many thanks.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 01:53 AM   #4
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Hi!

The artwork is nice. The package collection is good at first sight.

A few remarks after 10 minutes of usage:

Why do you skip the nouveau/nv drivers from the 'x' series? By default there were no
X session without the nouveau driver for me. Do you suggests to use the proprietary driver
by this selection, if yes why not provide it?

The full-transparent terminal is nearly unreadable on top of anything (at least for me).

Why there is no hints for the icons in the panel at the bottom? (some icons are not trivial
at least for novices)

Are you planning to provide security updates for your package set?

fdeak
 
Old 01-05-2013, 02:22 PM   #5
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Hi kikinovak

A question:

I have a eee-701Sd with 8GB SSD. I did a full install of slackware-14.0 but it's too big, I have no room to move. I am considering vector or salix as an alternative. Approximately how much disk space will MLED take?

TIA
 
Old 01-05-2013, 11:36 PM   #6
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Hi!

The artwork is nice. The package collection is good at first sight.

A few remarks after 10 minutes of usage:

Why do you skip the nouveau/nv drivers from the 'x' series? By default there were no
X session without the nouveau driver for me. Do you suggests to use the proprietary driver
by this selection, if yes why not provide it?

The full-transparent terminal is nearly unreadable on top of anything (at least for me).

Why there is no hints for the icons in the panel at the bottom? (some icons are not trivial
at least for novices)

Are you planning to provide security updates for your package set?

fdeak
Hi fdeak,

1) I had some poor experience with the nouveau drivers, where some had a nasty tendeny to freeze on some machines. And yes, the user is supposed to grab and build the latest driver from NVidia (or build a package from SBo).

2) Sorry for the transparent terminal. I never open it on top of anything except the background image. But then, YMMV.

3) I disabled the hinting for the icons because the infobubbles keep hiding the icons next to them. If you don't know what an icon means, take a peek in the main application menu.

4) Yes, I'm planning to provide security updates.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 11:38 PM   #7
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Hi kikinovak

A question:

I have a eee-701Sd with 8GB SSD. I did a full install of slackware-14.0 but it's too big, I have no room to move. I am considering vector or salix as an alternative. Approximately how much disk space will MLED take?

TIA
I don't know how much disk space it takes. I'd say give it a try.

If you have to choose between Vector and Salix, I'd definitely go for Salix, which is a very nice distro.

The Vector installer is a mess.
 
Old 01-06-2013, 10:21 AM   #8
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Hi kikinovak,

First I forgot to say that I wish you a good luck to you with your MLED edition :-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kikinovak View Post

1) I had some poor experience with the nouveau drivers, where some had a nasty tendeny to freeze on some machines. And yes, the user is supposed to grab and build the latest driver from NVidia (or build a package from SBo).
Altough I have no problem with my nvidia under XFCE, I respect your decision, but it would be better to write something about it in the README_MLED.TXT.



Do you plan to create an install iso for MLED? Installing with the current method is a litte bit complicated.

fdeak
 
Old 01-06-2013, 12:36 PM   #9
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Hi kikinovak,

Altough I have no problem with my nvidia under XFCE, I respect your decision, but it would be better to write something about it in the README_MLED.TXT.

Do you plan to create an install iso for MLED? Installing with the current method is a litte bit complicated.

fdeak
Well, it's not like Vector or Salix ("for the lazy Slacker"), and creating an ISO would actually mean publishing my own distro, which this is not meant to be. Let's say the MLED project aims to provide a full-blown Xfce desktop with bells and whistles in the spirit of what the GnomeSlackBuild people did for GNOME.

I'll try to be more specific in my README, though.

Cheers,

Niki
 
Old 01-07-2013, 11:54 AM   #10
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Altough I have no problem with my nvidia under XFCE, I respect your decision, but it would be better to write something about it in the README_MLED.TXT.

fdeak
Right, here goes.

Code:
Configure the X.org server. 

  -> A note on NVidia cards. I've had some bad freezes with the 'nouveau'
  drivers on various cards, so I decided not to include these - as well as the
  legacy 'nv' drivers - in the basic package set. I recommend downloading and
  building the proprietary 'nvidia' drivers from http://www.nvidia.com. If you
  don't want to use the 'nvidia' driver, you can still grab the
  'xf86-video-nouveau' or 'xf86-video-nv' packages using 'slackpkg'.
Cheers,

Niki
 
Old 01-16-2013, 08:39 PM   #11
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I don't know how much disk space it takes. I'd say give it a try.

If you have to choose between Vector and Salix, I'd definitely go for Salix, which is a very nice distro.

The Vector installer is a mess.
Thanks for your response kikinovak

As I said before I was considering MLED on the eee PC but declined and am now installing salix-14.0-xfce. The reason is more or less as stated that I need some room to move. You don't get much with 8 gig, minus about 600M for swap.

However, I have an old R51 Thinkpad that was running current (from June last year with updates) that I decided to reformat because the XP install was about due for refreshing and I wanted to try MLED anyway.

Something went wrong with running mkfontdir in installation, I got "bus error" 4 times, which I don't know what it means but I'm guessing 4 fonts failed to install correctly, let's hope that they are ones the system and I don't use with en_AU.utf8. I can't say if this is because of MLED or Slackware installer. Anyway, I'll find out soon enough if it comes back to bite me, however I will re-run the mkfondir and mkfontscale commands on the font directories to see if it gets fixed or can be reproduced. (EDIT: did that, "Bus error" occurred again.. seems the problem is with mkfontscale in 100dpi and 75dpi ["Invalid fonts.scale in 100dpi/", then "Bus error" same for 75dpi] ). I wonder if it's kernel related? I use the huge.s kernel as the pentium M doesn't support PAE.

I did make a mistake with your instructions though.. I added my user on first boot. I didn't absorb that when I RTFM! Well, I had to set up wireless anyway so that's probably not so bad. It's the first time I ever used networkmanager, I like it much better than wicd. Setup was painless.

Anyway, it is all installed and updated and looking very nice!

Ok, I owe you at least the disk usage
Code:
bash-4.2$ df -m /dev/sda2
Filesystem    1M-blocks    Used   Available   Use%  Mounted on
/dev/sda2         22003    7181       13705    35%  /
This is a clean MLED install almost to the letter with 1 user added, updated, upgraded, however I didn't clean the menus, that would be minimal saving I would expect. A bit too much for the eee pc though ..

Thanks very much for the hard work!
 
Old 01-17-2013, 10:36 AM   #12
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I'm puzzled about the mkfontdir/mkfontscale error. Don't really know where this could come from. On the other hand, I don't think you have to be stuck with the huge.s kernel. I'm running Slackware + MLED on a Panasonic Toughbook with a Pentium M processor like you, and I'm using the generic SMP kernel without problems.

Running 'cleanmenu' as root gives you more explicit menu entries. Supported languages : english, german and french.
 
Old 01-17-2013, 11:28 AM   #13
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There are different versions of Pentium M CPUs. Those with a FSB frequency of 400MHz don't support PAE, those with 533MHz FSB frequency do.
 
Old 03-16-2013, 05:27 PM   #14
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Hello,

Thanks a lot for sharing your work.

I wanted to have a look and, why not, install MLED. You did very good selections of software, and fit and finish is nice on the screenshots.

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General description and detailed installation instructions:
http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/14.0/README_MLED.TXT
But it seems the README_MLED is not available anymore...?
 
Old 03-17-2013, 05:08 AM   #15
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But it seems the README_MLED is not available anymore...?
Sorry, it's currently being rehauled. I'm now using much stuff from Salix and SBo on top of a standard Slackware install (to avoid effort duplication), and I'm currently rewriting the documentation.
 
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