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Old 02-16-2008, 01:52 PM   #16
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I still haven't found OpenOffice on my hard disk... anyone know where it is? In Windows, normally I'd search for "*open*.exe" or "*office*.exe", but I don't know how to search for executables in Linux.

Plus OpenOffice hasn't shown up in my KDE menu even though I heard it's supposed to put itself in your KDE menu... ?
How to search for files in Linux is explained in the Slackbook which has been mentioned numerous times.

If you ever don't know how to use a command then run
Code:
man commandname
and you will see a manual page on how to use it.

Also, shortcut files in Linux have a .desktop extension and in slackware are usually located at /usr/share/applications. If you ever install a program and a desktop entry was installed there, but it doesn't show up in the KDE menu, you can manually update the desktop database:
Code:
update-desktop-database usr/share/applications
Keep in mind that unlike Windows, Linux rarely needs a reboot, so keep that in mind when updating and installing software. You may have to restart a service, but you don't need to restart everything in order for software to "finish installation".
 
Old 02-16-2008, 03:33 PM   #17
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What's the issue that everyone has with root?

Is a ".tgz" the same as a ".tar.gz"?

You know how DOS has the autoexec.bat for doing stuff at startup, well where does all the startup stuff happen in Linux? Specifically I'd like to see the files where:
1) My drives get mounted
2) My network settings get set

Is it wise to change them to something more intuitive? Maybe something like /mnt/sdaDOS, /mnt/sdaWin, /mnt/sdaLinux? How would I go about doing this?
If you understand that your computer is wide open when you log in as root, then there's no issue. I normally run my computer as a normal user that can go root without a password ("read up on visudo in the slackbook and try sudo su").

A ".tgz" is technically the same as a ".tar.gz". It's a way of compressing files. tar first to make one big file maximizing the use of the disk sector (no space left behind empty). gzip aftewards to compress that file. The problem is that most of the time ".tar.gz" are "source files" and will not work with installpkg (needs to be compiled) while .tgz can be "Slackware binary installation files". Assume the files are source files unless you *know* they are slackware binaries (like from the CD or from linuxpackages.net).

The equivalent of autoexec.bash is /etc/rc.d/ in Slackware. There are a lot of files in there, which can be confusing. Again, the slackbook is your friend.

As for mounting the drives with names like /mnt/sdaDOS, there is no problem with that as long as all the programs know to look for directories in the new place (read up on ln in the slackbook, system administration). The file that gives it all names is /etc/fstab.

Remember you're starting to learn a new OS, and it's always good to have a printed manual at hand (I had a DOS 3.2 manual with me when I learned DOS, couldn't have survived without it). If you downloaded the DVD version of Slack12, you already have the slackbook in there. I suggest printing it out and using it as a reference.

Of course, this forum is here for all your questions.
 
Old 02-16-2008, 03:35 PM   #18
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I got that slackbuild file for OpenOffice and I followed the instructions to the letter. Everything went fine, I can type "swriter" or "scalc" at the commandline and it opens up... except it didn't get added to my KDE menu. (And I've even rebooted to see if that makes a difference).

Anyone know why it didn't get added to my KDE menu?

Is Backtrack 3 beta basically Slackware? I'm trying to understand the realtionship between them. I was under the impression that Backtrack was just Slackware with a few different skins and programs.

Should I stick with Backtrack or should I install Slackware 12? I already tried installing Slackware 12 but it didn't recognise my wireless card nor my soundcard. Would I have a pain in the brain if I tried to get the drivers right and so forth?
What are the benefits of having Slackware instead of Backtrack. Also, is there any way I can have Slackware but also have all the cool programs that come with Backtrack. . . ?
 
Old 02-16-2008, 04:52 PM   #19
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Backtrack, as I said in my previous post, is a network security tester livecd that should only be used as a livecd, not installed, also BackTrack is a slax based livecd. BackTrack is not supposed to be installed to a harddisk
 
Old 02-16-2008, 05:45 PM   #20
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Should I stick with Backtrack or should I install Slackware 12?
I haven't used Backtrack, but, I personally think that Slackware 12 is worth the little bit of extra effort that is required to configure it.
Once a Slacker, always a Slacker:-)
 
Old 02-16-2008, 08:02 PM   #21
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Plus if you actually are using Slackware, then Slackware users could help you better if you run into problems.
 
Old 02-17-2008, 07:41 AM   #22
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Anyone know why it didn't get added to my KDE menu?
That's weird. On mine, everything ended up in the Office menu (and yes, I did use the script from Slackbuilds.org). I know its a pain, but I suppose you could add it to the menu manually.
 
Old 02-17-2008, 02:40 PM   #23
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That's weird. On mine, everything ended up in the Office menu (and yes, I did use the script from Slackbuilds.org). I know its a pain, but I suppose you could add it to the menu manually.
My worked as well. Tomás's probably did not because he is not using Slackware and backtrack doesn't act quite the same. I don't know for sure, though, since I have never used backtrack.
 
Old 02-19-2008, 12:42 AM   #24
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openoffice is likely in /opt - not sure though; I have installed it several times over and I have always put it into /opt so I cannot say what the default is.

To contribute to the argument against root, when you find the command line is the place to do all of your administration, and that you can use kdesu to run graphical applications as another user, there is no reason for your web browser to be running as the most unrestricted user in the system. The reality is if you are the only user on your system, you are wrong. Malicious code that you inadvertently encounter could become another "user" and if its host is root, you're screwed. I do system administrative tasks all the time - I bound a keyboard shortcut to the root version of Konsole (KDE's terminal program) so I just punch in the password and do what I need to do. Seriously, just don't run as root.

as far as package management goes, just build from source. remember to go back over any upgraded libs to make sure the old versions are gone.
 
Old 02-19-2008, 07:56 AM   #25
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openoffice note

yes normally you should find the openoffice component programs in:

/opt/openoffice.org2.3/program/

(for OO 2.3, something analogous for other release)


The individual component progs are:

swriter (=open word)
scalc (=open excel)
simpress (= open powerpoint)
sbase etc etc

By the way I've installed OO on quite a few distros now and I must
say the slackbuild script is among the cleanest install. Particularly
if you want to remove an old version and then install newer release.
 
  


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