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Old 06-02-2024, 05:50 PM   #91
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I would not say Villain, but a "horse" which died on November 22, 2015 , yet some guys insists to beat its bones even today...

Seriously? Even after 9 (nine) years are people who did not figured yet that LILO's dead since really long time, along with ELILO and SYSLINUX?
lilo is so dead small mom and pop shops like Cisco and Juniper have a few appliances, Linux based, that relies on this dead horse to fire up products sold and supported as fresh as May 2024.

Lilo is more likely a case of "it works so well and is so simple to use there is no need to reinvent the wheel". Maybe for bare metal users where the UEFI vendor delivers half-baked solutions one might need a few options within lilo or something altogether to fix someone else's problem, but as a boot loader, it is far away from a dead horse.
 
Old 06-02-2024, 06:17 PM   #92
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lilo is so dead small mom and pop shops like Cisco and Juniper have a few appliances, Linux based, that relies on this dead horse to fire up products sold and supported as fresh as May 2024.
Since WHEN the LILO is used by the ARM or RISC-V devices?

No offense, but I thought that's x86 only...

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Old 06-02-2024, 06:36 PM   #93
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Lilo is more likely a case of "it works so well and is so simple to use there is no need to reinvent the wheel". Maybe for bare metal users where the UEFI vendor delivers half-baked solutions one might need a few options within lilo or something altogether to fix someone else's problem, but as a boot loader, it is far away from a dead horse.
Well, Lilo is not maintained anymore and this by itself can cause problems, like this problem with RAID-1 on NVME. Found a workaround, but still, I wish I had the skills to fix it, or Lilo was still maintained.
 
Old 06-02-2024, 06:37 PM   #94
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Both companies have shifted away from custom silicon and embraced ye ole x86_64, for mass availability and simplicity with physical hardware and cloud support. So yes, it is x86 only. Also, as a VM, the boot loader is oblivious to the hardware - that’s a function of the hypervisor. On bare metal, they have the ability and luxury to cherry pick the hardware they want that supports the software and vice versa.

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Old 06-04-2024, 03:20 PM   #95
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As the OP, i believe I ought to post an update.

First of all, I love this community and I am so happy to be part of it. I will NOT switch distro as it seems that nothing has ever happened.

Yes, for the last week I have been installing packages and restoring my system to previous-state and it seems that I woke up from a bad dreams. PC is fully working. (i guess, I should consider this the biggest anomaly!)

I would like to respond to the members who claims that bad PSU (and PSU-related issues) could cause anomalies: you are probably correct however, in 30years of assembling desktops, I never had issues with PSUs (I am referring to PSU bought from verified vendors). Beside, for those who took the time to read my replies, would have learned that I brought the PC to a 'service-centre' and, assuming that the bad/unstable power supply was at National level, they would have noticed the same 'anomalies' I had. So, that rules out the PSU.

My hardware considerations are:
(bad) RAM stick: possible/unlikely!
(bad) Videocard: possible/likely
(bad) Motherboard: possible/likely
(bad) CPU: possible/unlikely
(bad) Software: possible/highly-unlikely

Thank you all for the participation.
Nice to see you are sticking it out. One strong contender for being the cause of your problems is also the "nouveau" graphics driver you've been using. I've seen a few of your threads and know you've mentioned using it before.

I just did a fresh install to dual boot slackware64-current on my desktop not long ago. This machine has a different card than yours, but it is nvidia (GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER). I tried using the system as-is for around a week and it started hanging at random times. Sometimes it was good for a day, others it wouldn't wake from suspend (had hung I guess, couldn't ping or ssh it either), other times I would do something like close firefox, the desktop re-draws, and then just hangs. Only way to get it out of this state is a hard reset. I switched the setup to use the latest nvidia drivers for the card and its working fine again.

I had this exact same problem in 2021, when I tried using nouveau drivers the last time. Looks like things haven't gotten better in the last 3 years.

I like to try to support the open source drivers, but having my machine hang daily with unclean shutdowns on my disks is just not acceptable. There's nothing to really go on for bug reports either since I have to power-cycle to get anywhere. If it can do that to my machine, it's possibly a problem for you too.

If you want to run the official drivers, there's a number of ways to do it. Easiest way is probably using the .RUN script that Nvidia supplies for their linux/unix drivers: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/

Your Nvidia GTX 1060 card came up as supported by the 550.90.07 drivers.

Note that to run the .RUN script to install those drivers you should install the xf86-video-nouveau-blacklist package you find under extra/ in the slackware tree. Reboot and then run the nvidia script from 'init 3' runlevel (you might have to set the nvidia RUN script executable first). You also need to have the kernel-source package installed to build the nvidia kernel modules. After satisfying those conditions the .RUN installer is basically point and click the buttons for a couple options like adding 32 bit drivers and an Xorg config file. You just have to remember to rerun the script after any kernel updates to rebuild the modules for that kernel.
 
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Old 06-04-2024, 07:15 PM   #96
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Beside, for those who took the time to read my replies, would have learned that I brought the PC to a 'service-centre' and, assuming that the bad/unstable power supply was at National level, they would have noticed the same 'anomalies' I had. So, that rules out the PSU.
It depends...did they use a tester or a multimeter on it? It is rare, but PSU's do fail. (I think I've only had one go bad, thankfully, in the 20 years I've been using/building computers.)

If your computer's working with a clean install, then that would probably be the culprit, though.

Another thing to try...replace the cord to your monitor. A bad monitor cord can mimic all sorts of video card problems.

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Old 06-05-2024, 01:01 AM   #97
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however (not addressing the OP (yet ) )

I think the takeaway could be the decades old -current conundrum:

So many times I've heard the seasoned Linux user to
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"have tried Slackware, even got to "upgrade it (sic!) to -current but it was too unstable for daily use so he left it for a better (more modern, more convenient (dependency hell aka "out of the box ready") distro)
So much so there should be some sort of fencing for accessing current IMHO (not that i'm asked about anything here):

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THE BIG SLACKWARE-CURRENT ACCESSING DISCLAIMER:
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I <put your name here> am hereby renouncing any entitlement to rant, complain and tarnish, expressed or implied, the fitness or performance of Slackware, Slackware-current or any derivatives there of.
Furthermore I am waiving my rights to brag, complain or boast any member, tool or service to the Slackware distribution, company or community for the while.

All this conditions are in full effect from the moment of I <put your name here> have endugled my self into the adventurous activity of installing, using and keeping Slackware-current (now on referred to -current) up to date, using it occasionally or on a daily basis, examining it, tweaking, changing it and/or reporting issues or omissions i encounter while attempting or doing so.

And I <put your name here> damn well understand that all my rights of brag, complain or boast are henceforth being stripped from me for the whole eternity is twice over and then some.

By my own free will and accepting all the above stated with my full mental capacity and sentience:


____________________________________
(underwrite and put your name in plain letters on the line)
And a long list hosted somewhere with all the participants listed there so everyone can see and this text on top of the list.

Many a tear (and 2c's) shed could be spared had I been granted this wisdom and knowledge decades back...

Whacha Y'all think?


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