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Old 05-27-2024, 09:25 PM   #76
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The first TWO desktops I build used chips, not sticks.
Bad chips were rare, but I had the office phone numbers of some officers of the US chip makers (yeah, we actually made them HERE back then) and replacements were easy. ANYTHING can arrive bad, hardware is not magic. It is far easier to test things without an EE degree these days!
 
Old 05-28-2024, 12:13 AM   #77
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Faulty RAM is a comparably recent phenomenon. I used to build my own kits 20+ years ago, and I never had any problems with RAM. RAM sticks had a lifetime warranty, and RAM problems were almost never heard of.
Back then, the RAM was not connected directly to the CPU, there was a north bridge with a memory controller between the CPU and the RAM and that north bridge usually did support ECC. So ECC was probably more common back then.

Today the memory controller is built into the CPU and with Intel CPUs you need to choose a more expensive Xeon CPU to get support for ECC.

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Old 05-28-2024, 08:41 AM   #78
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Also be careful with "cheap" RAM bought from Amazon. I ordered 4 sticks to revive an old core2 machine I had sitting at home. All 4 sticks were hot garbage and failed to boot and failed memtest86. Had to return them, not worth it. I stick with my trusted local parts supplier now.
 
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Old 05-28-2024, 10:43 AM   #79
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Yeah, RAM and power supplies, it pays to spend a little extra for brands you know are good.
 
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Old 05-28-2024, 05:13 PM   #80
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Stop running -Current it's not always going to be Stable, and it's not meant for Production Usage! You should know this as a Slacker already of all these years, so stick to the STABLE BRANCH! I've been rung Slack since 7x and I've never ever once had any issues with Slack in all these years.

Slack is ROCK SOLID!

SO, install and run the Stable Branch, then see how your computer turns out, and if you're still having problems, then it is your hardware.


Process of Elimination!

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Old 05-31-2024, 10:22 AM   #81
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On another thread some of us had issues with older laptops booting to a blank screen after upgrading to Kernel 6.6. There were 2 resolutions - use the function keys to hibernate, wake the machine, and then switch consoles. The second was to install grub. I have used the first for some time now and its working ok. For the most part. Another poster in the thread installed grub and as far as I can tell its resolved.

Point being, on current at least, is lilo the Villain here?
 
Old 05-31-2024, 11:59 AM   #82
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Red face

..... just upgraded to 6.9.3. Boots to a blank screen - entered, blindly, the passphrase for the encrypted drive, and voila. It booted up normally to the kdm login screen.
 
Old 05-31-2024, 12:04 PM   #83
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On another thread some of us had issues with older laptops booting to a blank screen after upgrading to Kernel 6.6. There were 2 resolutions - use the function keys to hibernate, wake the machine, and then switch consoles. The second was to install grub. I have used the first for some time now and its working ok. For the most part. Another poster in the thread installed grub and as far as I can tell its resolved.

Point being, on current at least, is lilo the Villain here?
I would not say Villain, but a "horse" which died on November 22, 2015 , yet some guys insists to beat its bones even today...

Seriously? Even after 9 (nine) years are people who did not figured yet that LILO's dead since really long time, along with ELILO and SYSLINUX?

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Old 06-02-2024, 01:51 AM   #84
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I would not say Villain, but a "horse" which died on November 22, 2015 , yet some guys insists to beat its bones even today...

Seriously? Even after 9 (nine) years are people who did not figured yet that LILO's dead since really long time, along with ELILO and SYSLINUX?
I think that would change if Grub was put in the installer by a brave individual. Until that happens, that horse will never rest in peace!
 
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Old 06-02-2024, 05:51 AM   #85
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I think that would change if Grub was put in the installer by a brave individual. Until that happens, that horse will never rest in peace!
It actually is on the USB, you just have to refuse lilo/elilo and install it.
I'm ashamed to say that I am always doing this while watching the video here (to not forget any detail).

https://youtu.be/OZeJd5JPQro?si=WKWpyJOGGLsbeBa-&t=1509
 
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Old 06-02-2024, 09:06 AM   #86
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I would not say Villain, but a "horse" which died on November 22, 2015 , yet some guys insists to beat its bones even today...

Seriously? Even after 9 (nine) years are people who did not figured yet that LILO's dead since really long time, along with ELILO and SYSLINUX?
You are like a vinyl record with a scratch.
On hardware without UEFI BIOS support, LILO is still the easiest and least resource intensive solution.
 
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Old 06-02-2024, 09:14 AM   #87
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You are like a vinyl record with a scratch.
On hardware without UEFI BIOS support, LILO is still the easiest and least resource intensive solution.
YES
and also the fastest.
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Old 06-02-2024, 11:53 AM   #88
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It actually is on the USB, you just have to refuse lilo/elilo and install it.
I'm ashamed to say that I am always doing this while watching the video here (to not forget any detail).

https://youtu.be/OZeJd5JPQro?si=WKWpyJOGGLsbeBa-&t=1509
I've been using Slackware off and on for 20 years, and have been using it straight for 10 years, and I'd definitely need that video if I had to install GRUB. He did a good job explaining how to do it.

GRUB needs to be automatically installed during installation like lilo and elilo because otherwise I'm not going to bother with it. I wish there was an option asking you where do you want to install it too. I'd like to be able to pick the efi partition during install in case I want to use a different one or in cases where it isn't detected. It would be nice to be able to name the directory too. This paragraph belongs in the "requests for current-next" thread. I think this is a spot where the installer needs updating the most.

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Old 06-02-2024, 03:30 PM   #89
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As the OP, i believe I ought to post an update.

First of all, I love this community and I am so happy to be part of it. I will NOT switch distro as it seems that nothing has ever happened.

Yes, for the last week I have been installing packages and restoring my system to previous-state and it seems that I woke up from a bad dreams. PC is fully working. (i guess, I should consider this the biggest anomaly!)

I would like to respond to the members who claims that bad PSU (and PSU-related issues) could cause anomalies: you are probably correct however, in 30years of assembling desktops, I never had issues with PSUs (I am referring to PSU bought from verified vendors). Beside, for those who took the time to read my replies, would have learned that I brought the PC to a 'service-centre' and, assuming that the bad/unstable power supply was at National level, they would have noticed the same 'anomalies' I had. So, that rules out the PSU.

My hardware considerations are:
(bad) RAM stick: possible/unlikely!
(bad) Videocard: possible/likely
(bad) Motherboard: possible/likely
(bad) CPU: possible/unlikely
(bad) Software: possible/highly-unlikely

Thank you all for the participation.

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Old 06-02-2024, 04:38 PM   #90
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I think that would change if Grub was put in the installer by a brave individual. Until that happens, that horse will never rest in peace!
I'm happy that GRUB does ship with Slackware. I also think that it would be cool if the Slackware installer gave you the option of selecting GRUB, LILO, ELILO during the installation process.
 
  


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