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onebuck 08-20-2012 06:21 AM

Linux-Today 'Slackware 14.0 RC2 Released'
 
Hi,

Linux-Today announcement: Slackware 14.0 RC2 Released
Quote:

In the latest changelog, Vokerding said, "Getting close! Hopefully we've cleared out most of the remaining issues and are nearly ready here."

Didier Spaier 08-20-2012 06:27 AM

Hi,

I was announced in Distrowatch as well. :cool:

Mercury305 08-20-2012 08:42 AM

Slackware has moved up the chart in distro watch quick. lol

hitest 08-20-2012 08:48 AM

Good to see Slackware getting mentioned! I am looking forward to my 14.0 subscription being delivered in the not too distant future. :)

onebuck 08-20-2012 09:06 AM

Moderator Response
 
Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury305 (Post 4759136)
Slackware has moved up the chart in distro watch quick. lol

Not a constructive contribution, even in jest.

You have been warned several times in the past to be constructive. No need to start something with sarcasm & criticism either since you seem to lack the understanding when you post in this manner things happen.
Enough said!

EDIT: After PM discussion and clarifications, the moderation was in error. So my apologies to Mercury305 for misunderstanding.

Mercury305 08-20-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onebuck (Post 4759172)
Hi,



Not a constructive contribution, even in jest.

You have been warned several times in the past to be constructive. No need to start something with sarcasm & criticism either since you seem to lack the understanding when you post in this manner things happen.
Enough said!

I swear this was not "Criticism" but the very OPPOSITE.

hitest 08-20-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury305 (Post 4759198)
I swear this was not "Criticism" but the very OPPOSITE.

On the Internet it is difficult to determine the intent of a post. I too thought that your comment, "lol", was a bit odd. I'm happy that you did not intend to be critical or sarcastic.

Didier Spaier 08-20-2012 09:59 AM

Distrowatch is ..., Well, Distrowatch ;)

Seriously, we all know that these statistics should be taken with a (big) piece of salt. This is not new and has been discussed many times, including in Distrowatch itself.

Furthermore:
1) When people see a distribution mentioned in a news article in Distrowatch, out of curiosity some click on the link to that distribution and its rank increases.
2) This is specially true when a new version has just been released.

By the way, Distrowatch is used to publish a news article about any new *release* even those they tag "development" ones.

So maybe that's my fault, as my previous post in this thread was useless. :confused:

@Mercury305 (out of topic) did you get this issue sorted out?

Mercury305 08-20-2012 10:00 AM

Its understandable to misunderstand what I wrote. Especially coming from my finger tips.

But what I meant to say that since it has been a while that Slackware has come with a new release. The way it jumped up in charts should show the enthusiasm of its users.

brianL 08-20-2012 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitest (Post 4759139)
Good to see Slackware getting mentioned! I am looking forward to my 14.0 subscription being delivered in the not too distant future. :)

Seems like a pretty harmless remark to me, compared to some of his previous efforts. Don't think it warrants a warning. :twocents:

Anonymo 08-20-2012 10:11 AM

Some people, especially the younger generation type 'lol' after everything. It's sort of like a nervous tick or something. It used to bother me a lot, especially with text messages.

Quote:

Example:
friend: hey, I went to the store lol
me: cool. What did you buy?
friend: I bought some chips lol
me: Are you going to bring them over?
friend: Yea, gotz some dip too lol
So I just read over 'lol' now. It means nothing to me anymore.

I been following the conversations on here recently and Mercury305 seems to have ruffled some features at the beginning, but I don't think he was being a troll and have noticed an improvement to the posts, especially after Patrick came in and explained some stuff better to him.

Obligatory "let's cut him so slack :D" quote.

Mercury305 08-20-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4759236)
Seems like a pretty harmless remark to me, compared to some of his previous efforts. Don't think it warrants a warning. :twocents:

yup, sorry about the other remarks of my past bro. You live and you learn. I'm understanding the beauty of Slackware now though as I use it more often. Actually I am starting to like all distros in their own ways instead of just looking at their negative sides. Unix Philosophy: Use all distros for their specific purpose. Choose distros that do 1 thing well lol.
I should add backtrack and fedora in my list as well.

But as you can seee Slackware is number 1:

<---------------

because I like the command line so much :)
Slackware makes me think... I like to use my brain.

hitest 08-20-2012 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4759236)
Seems like a pretty harmless remark to me, compared to some of his previous efforts. Don't think it warrants a warning. :twocents:

I think I initially misunderstood the "lol". Agreed. No harm done in my opinion. We are all Slackers. :)

Mercury305 08-20-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymo (Post 4759242)
Some people, especially the younger generation type 'lol' after everything. It's sort of like a nervous tick or something. It used to bother me a lot, especially with text messages.



So I just read over 'lol' now. It means nothing to me anymore.

I been following the conversations on here recently and Mercury305 seems to have ruffled some features at the beginning, but I don't think he was being a troll and have noticed an improvement to the posts, especially after Patrick came in and explained some stuff better to him.

Obligatory "let's cut him so slack :D" quote.

Man u must be pretty old since i am 29! LOL

Na, but this was a real LOL (just teezing or for grammar nazis teasing)

Thanks for the Slack... I feel initiated into the slackware forums! :D

Mercury305 08-20-2012 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier (Post 4758995)
Hi,

I was announced in Distrowatch as well. :cool:

Didier thanks for the help! ;)

Anonymo 08-20-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury305 (Post 4759250)
Man u must be pretty old since i am 29! LOL

Na, but this was a real LOL (just teezing or for grammar nazis teasing)

Thanks for the Slack... I feel initiated into the slackware forums! :D

Wow! Really? I'm 29, [EDITED] I'm glad you're liking the Unix way. Also, you got Patrick to talk to you. :P

Didier Spaier 08-20-2012 10:24 AM

@Mercury305: no need to answer this childish post from Anonymo.

Mercury305 08-20-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier (Post 4759261)
@Mercury305: no need to answer this childish post from Anonymo.

Don't worry Didier I am not that fragile ;)

Im a geek from the hood lol :)

but lol'ing at dumb s*** has been around since I first used IRC.

Ofcorse now they got ("have" for grammar nazis) twitter and all that other b/s ("and all of the other gadgets" for the grammar nazis) that I never use ("don't use" for the grammar nazis). Would you believe that I never bought a tablet? Why?

Because God invented the Keyboard!

I still use an old school samsung wireless phone that you have to type in the letters with the number pad.
Why? Cost me $7!

Didier Spaier 08-20-2012 10:41 AM

I think we are moving out of topic. So let's back on tracks -- but we already arrived at the last station, so I will just leave the train. See you later.

Mercury305 08-20-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier (Post 4759279)
I think we are moving out of topic. So let's back on tracks -- but we already arrived at the last station, so I will just leave the train. See you later.

Yes, I agree sorry again. Moving on.

Anonymo 08-20-2012 11:14 AM

Sure, let's move on. But seriously, I thought he was younger for some reason. I actually enjoy his posts and meant no insult.

Mercury305 08-20-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymo (Post 4759304)
Sure, let's move on. But seriously, I thought he was younger for some reason. I actually enjoy his posts and meant no insult.

You enjoy my posts? I thought I was a habitual PITA... don't spoil me now because my PITA tendencies will come back out to haunt everybody on LQ and I'm sure nobody wants to open pandora's box. but thanks. :)

Let me get back to work lol (i did that on purpose this time! ;))

PS winking at other guys is also considered gay in the real world. But since my Role Model Patrick likes to do it... I guess its cool for me to be gay too So! ;) :P... Again, please don't get offended for my PITAness.

Anonymo 08-20-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury305 (Post 4759314)
You enjoy my posts? I thought I was a habitual PITA... don't spoil me now because my PITA tendencies will come back out to haunt everybody on LQ and I'm sure nobody wants to open pandora's box. but thanks. :)

Let me get back to work lol (i did that on purpose this time! ;))

PS winking at other guys is also considered gay in the real world. But since my Role Model Patrick likes to do it... I guess its cool for me to be gay too So! ;) :P... Again, please don't get offended for my PITAness.

The first posts were sort of a PITA, but only because they all seemed to discuss the same issue and it felt the discussions were going in circles and your opinion(s) seemed more like you're annoyed and saying "do things this way" instead of asking "why things are done this way?". But I think you might have brought topics that some people were curious about. It's similar to what just happened to me, things get misinterpreted online, since you can't hear the sarcasm or the sincerity or whatever anyone is feeling when they are typing. From new people coming to Slackware, it's "let's ask why things are done this way or why no dependency resolution or why systemd?", and we are trying to get an answer or trying to wrap our heads around these seemingly crazy ideas. But to people here on Slackware forums, who have been around a long time, when someone comes asking these same questions, the thoughts that probably go through their heads is "oh, not this again! or why not go somewhere else if they are not happy with it. Or this guy is trying to troll or start a flame war", because it comes up sooo many times on here and there is no way to tell if the person really wants to know or just trolling. But it's because they/we love Slackware so much and don't really want it to change. I'm glad that Patrick was able to speak with you and his perspective was brought out and actually enlightened me, because he's intelligent and has so much more experience. Also shows how much he cares for Slackware and was very patient and kind, seeing right through all the posts and was able to guide you.

Mercury305 08-20-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymo (Post 4759327)
The first posts were sort of a PITA, but only because they all seemed to discuss the same issue and it felt the discussions were going in circles and your opinion(s) seemed more like you're annoyed and saying "do things this way" instead of asking "why things are done this way?". But I think you might have brought topics that some people were curious about. It's similar to what just happened to me, things get misinterpreted online, since you can't hear the sarcasm or the sincerity or whatever anyone is feeling when they are typing. From new people coming to Slackware, it's "let's ask why things are done this way or why no dependency resolution or why systemd?", and we are trying to get an answer or trying to wrap our heads around these seemingly crazy ideas. But to people here on Slackware forums, who have been around a long time, when someone comes asking these same questions, the thoughts that probably go through their heads is "oh, not this again! or why not go somewhere else if they are not happy with it. Or this guy is trying to troll or start a flame war", because it comes up sooo many times on here and there is no way to tell if the person really wants to know or just trolling. But it's because they/we love Slackware so much and don't really want it to change. I'm glad that Patrick was able to speak with you and his perspective was brought out and actually enlightened me, because he's intelligent and has so much more experience. Also shows how much he cares for Slackware and was very patient and kind, seeing right through all the posts and was able to guide you.

I had to go through hell to get those answers. But when I got the answers they were SOLID. I just wanted to know why. There had to be a good reason. I was determined and curious. So if I was interpreted as PITA then oh well... at least now I know why things are the way they are. I am happy to clear the minds of others as well. Patrick doesn't talk much but whenever he does he has something smart to say. I am glad to push his buttons to get good answers for the rest of us.
In all reality I love the Command line. Because I feel very intimate with the Computer under that Dark Black oblivious screen. Its so much funner then point and click and it works so much better if you know what you are doing. Slackware seemed the most command line friendly to me out of all the distros I tried.
With the command line you are that much closer to the Kernel. The GUI is just an added abstraction to communicate with you easier. But doing so it sacrifices your intelligence. Every click you make often is a lot of hidden commands going in the background you don't know about. You often can't get the same flexibility in GUI either. Because its so much easier to code in command line type of program then having to create buttons and etc. for every detail "-" to the command. On top of that you got "|"
| (piping) alone is enough to surpass GUI in so many ways. Because you can't possibly make that many variables/combinations into GUI.

volkerdi 08-20-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury305 (Post 4759314)
PS winking at other guys is also considered gay in the real world. But since my Role Model Patrick likes to do it... I guess its cool for me to be gay too So! ;) :P... Again, please don't get offended for my PITAness.

Got Lemons? ;)

Mercury305 08-20-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkerdi (Post 4759356)
Got Lemons? ;)

I have lemons, pears and oranges. ;)
Sorry for being a PITA I guess you should grab some more Prep. H incase you run out as long as I am here and continuing to use Slackware ;)

fibster 08-20-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury305 (Post 4759360)
I have lemons, pears and oranges. ;)
Sorry for being a PITA I guess you should grab some more Prep. H incase you run out as long as I am here and continuing to use Slackware ;)

Good Lord, did I really just waste moments of my life reading these posts? Is this the Slackware section?
Lol I always have a great time here. Mercury you are going to be fun I see.

have a great day all,


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