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Old 07-07-2019, 12:12 AM   #31
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I erased all the previous partitions. I tried to reset the firmware by choosing "Factory Defaults" on the Main screen. Turned off secure boot and left Legacy off to use UEFI. I did a complete reinstall of Windows 10. I downloaded another instance of ISO DVD, checked the SHA hash, and burned a new DVD (3rd copy). I made a USB install using Unetbootin as another method. I used Gparted to partition the computer and create a partition for slackware. I've attached a picture of the Gparted scheme. I still can't get slackware to install on the HP Probook.

I took a different computer that has just Windows 10, no other partitions or OSes, and turned off secure boot. It's not the same model, but it is an HP laptop. The slackware DVD installs there.

I created a Gparted disc and a Devuan ISO disc with the Probook. They both work fine when I boot them on the Probook.

For some reason that completely baffles me, I cannot get a slackware ISO as either DVD or USB to boot on the Probook. I got other discs to boot. I can boot the slackware installer on a different computer, but not on the one I want to boot on.

When I try the USB, I get "Welcome to GRUB". There is a 15 second or so pause. Then I get a GRUB menu. On the menu, I select "Slackware 14.2". I waited 2 hours for something to happen after that. Nothing.

When I try the DVD, I get "Welcome to GRUB". Then nothing happens or I get an error that says "unaligned pointer 0x700000fffffff
Aborted. Press any key to exit." depending on which of the 3 DVDs I try to boot.

Aside from this, someone said something about slackware not using GRUB. Even on the laptop that had no other previous installs besides Windows 10, which I used to test the media that did not work on the intended machine, when I started the install media, "Welcome to GRUB" came up every time. Further there is this:
"Welcome to the Slackware Linux version 14.2 64-bit x86_64 DVD.

Here's a tree showing the contents of this disc. For complete details,
see additional documentation files.

.
|-- ANNOUNCE.14_2
|-- CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT
|-- CHECKSUMS.md5
|-- CHECKSUMS.md5.asc
|-- COPYING
|-- COPYING3
|-- COPYRIGHT.TXT
|-- CRYPTO_NOTICE.TXT
|-- ChangeLog.txt
|-- EFI
| `-- BOOT
| |-- bootx64.efi
| |-- grub-embedded.cfg
| |-- grub.cfg
| |-- huge.s
| |-- initrd.img
| |-- make-grub.sh
| |-- osdetect.cfg
| `-- tools.cfg
" which I found on:
https://mirrors.syringanetworks.net/...ll-dvd.iso.txt

I appreciate all the support that everyone has supplied. I think it might be time to throw in the towel on this. Maybe I'll see y'all with the next version.
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Old 07-07-2019, 03:41 AM   #32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deretsigernu View Post
When I try the USB, I get "Welcome to GRUB". There is a 15 second or so pause.
Thta is strange, the Slackware DVD doesn't use grub (nor lilo), it was made bootable through the "isolinux" bootloader:
Code:
partial hexdump of the first blocks of the DVD

000000b0  00 e8 83 00 69 73 6f 6c  69 6e 75 78 2e 62 69 6e  |....isolinux.bin|
000000c0  20 6d 69 73 73 69 6e 67  20 6f 72 20 63 6f 72 72  | missing or corr|
000000d0  75 70 74 2e 0d 0a 66 60  66 31 d2 66 03 06 f8 7b  |upt...f`f1.f...{|
000000e0  66 13 16 fc 7b 66 52 66  50 06 53 6a 01 6a 10 89  |f...{fRfP.Sj.j..|
000000f0  e6 66 f7 36 e8 7b c0 e4  06 88 e1 88 c5 92 f6 36  |.f.6.{.........6|
00000100  ee 7b 88 c6 08 e1 41 b8  01 02 8a 16 f2 7b cd 13  |.{....A......{..|
00000110  8d 64 10 66 61 c3 e8 1e  00 4f 70 65 72 61 74 69  |.d.fa....Operati|
00000120  6e 67 20 73 79 73 74 65  6d 20 6c 6f 61 64 20 65  |ng system load e|
00000130  72 72 6f 72 2e 0d 0a 5e  ac b4 0e 8a 3e 62 04 b3  |rror...^....>b..|
(part skipped)
00008000  01 43 44 30 30 31 01 00  4c 49 4e 55 58 20 20 20  |.CD001..LINUX   |
00008010  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  |                |
00008020  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  53 6c 61 63 6b 44 56 44  |        SlackDVD|
It might be that isolinux doesn't work on your system and it gets the grub from "elsewhere", not the DVD nor the USB stick.
 
Old 07-07-2019, 07:36 AM   #33
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Quote:
Aside from this, someone said something about slackware not using GRUB
grub is not used as the default bootloader on an installed system during installation, but can be manually made as the default bootloader after installaion . Grub is used on the iso/dvd/usb in uefi mode, therefore the reason your getting a grub menu when you boot the iso. In legacy/cms mode the isolinux is used as bootloader for the iso.

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Old 07-07-2019, 08:03 AM   #34
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When I try the USB, I get "Welcome to GRUB". There is a 15 second or so pause. Then I get a GRUB menu. On the menu, I select "Slackware 14.2". I waited 2 hours for something to happen after that. Nothing.
at the grub menu press e for edit and add
Code:
nomodeset
and
Code:
video=1366x768
to the end of the line that begins with linux

looking at your gparted post you haven't created a partition for slackware to occupy.

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Old 07-07-2019, 12:01 PM   #35
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Sorry, I was not clear about the GRUB comment in my last post. I was kind of tired when I wrote that. I did not mean to imply that GRUB is used by slackware for booting once it is installed, unless one sets that up manually. But it seems very apparent to me at this point that GRUB is part of the slackware installation _setup_. colorpurple21859's comment supports that observation.

@colorpurple21859, I booted the USB and used editing to see the following:
Code:
setparams 'Slackware 14.2 huge.s kernel'

echo "Loading huge.s kernel and installer initrd. Please wait..."
linux /kernels/huge.s/bzImage vga=normal load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 ro printk.time=0 nomodeset SLACK_KERNEL=huge.s
initrd /isolinux/initrd.img
So I left off adding "nomodeset", since it was in there, but did add "video=1366x768" to the second line.

I pressed F10 to boot and then it hangs again. I just finished shaving and put in a load of laundry and it still isn't doing anything.

And yes, you were right, I added wrong picture of Gparted. The most recent Gparted table picture is attached.
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Old 07-07-2019, 01:00 PM   #36
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I pressed F10 to boot and then it hangs again.
When you say it hangs is it a blank screen, or is there text on the screen and if so, what is it?
 
Old 07-07-2019, 06:21 PM   #37
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The screen is blank. No text or anything else to see. I hear the DVD drive run for several seconds and then it just stops. I don't know how to check the drive for any problems, but I did put in a video DVD after that and watch it for 40 minutes before I had to go do other stuff. So it seems like the optical drive works.

Earlier, I said that the Devuan install disc worked. It does at first. But when I went to actually install Devuan about an hour ago, it did pretty much the same thing as slackware install. Does the first couple of steps of install, then screen goes blank, and DVD drive stops running after several seconds.

If I'm in Legacy mode, I can get through a whole install with slackware. Maybe there is a setting in UEFI that I am missing. Fast boot is off. Legacy and secure boot are disabled. I've included pics of what seem to be the relevant settings in the firmware. There are a lot of pics, so I will make two posts. The pics in this post show the first screen of settings in the firmware, "Main", and the options under "Security" screen.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:25 PM   #38
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The next pics are
"Advanced"
"Advanced>Boot Options"
"Advanced>Boot Options continued"
"Advanced>Secure Boot"
"UEFI Drivers"

All the settings that you see are current on the machine.
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Old 07-08-2019, 05:34 AM   #39
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It looks like it is a video issue. You wouldn't happen to have duel graphic cards? Try deleting the vga=normal on the linux line with combinations of adding/deleting nomodeset and video=1366x768

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Old 07-09-2019, 09:02 AM   #40
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just a thought; you could use legacy mode and install lilo to the slackware root partition instead of the mbr, and then use the windows boot loader menu to select windows or linux. I do that on my laptop because the bios is broken, windows is installed in legacy with an uefi partion (don't ask - it shouldn't be possible). after using lilo to create a bootable partition, reboot to windows and use bcdedit to copy that bootloader into a file, and use it as a boot option. you may also need to set the bootable flag on the partition using fdisk (press a in fdisk) for lilo to boot it, even though it is been booted via

uefi bios->windows usefi boot loader->bcd (menu and) loader->lilo->slackware14.2

see https://www.boyans.net/DualBootWindo...nuxOrUnix.html

it's not ideal, but actually getting a boot menu on start up each time with uefi can be problematic on some laptops anyway. If you use bcdedit method, you will have to remember to repeat the process after running lilo after any kernel updates.
 
Old 07-09-2019, 09:16 AM   #41
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will the 64bit iso install in legacy mode? If so, once installed then should be able to fix to boot in uefi mode after installation.
 
Old 07-09-2019, 10:57 AM   #42
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will the 64bit iso install in legacy mode? If so, once installed then should be able to fix to boot in uefi mode after installation.
Yes, it is not an issue to install 64bit on legacy hardware or on UEFI systems with legacy mode (compatibility support module) enabled.
 
Old 07-09-2019, 02:20 PM   #43
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@ bassmadrigal, yes I already know this, but the op was able to install 32bit in legacy mode without issue but when trying to install 64bit in efi mode the screen goes blank after grub menu. I was wondering if the 64bit goes blank after booting in legacy mode are works as did the 32bit iso. If it does work then most likely can get uefi booting fixed after installing in legacy mode from the installed slackware system.
 
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Did the OP ever say what CPU the laptop is running? I scanned through the thread and images but might have missed the laptop description. Maybe it's an older, lower end unit running Intel Atom Bay Trail? Those CPUs ran a 32bit EFI with a 64 bit OS. That might explain why 32 bit Slackware worked but 64 bit Slackware is problematic.
 
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Old 07-10-2019, 01:12 AM   #45
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I tried colorpurple21859's suggestion about editing video parameters on GRUB boot with USB. It didn't change anything. There is a message
"Booting a command list
Loading huge.s kernel and installer initrd. Please wait", but that always came up. That's when the install just hangs. I left out each of the video settings while including one or both of the others.

I'm pretty tired right now, very hard day at work. I've skimmed the recent suggestions about installing in legacy, using slackware root as one boot and then (chainloading somehow?) with Windows? It doesn't make sense to me, but I'm so tired.

The CPU is i7-8550U. The sticker says "8th Gen".

A couple of days ago, I burned an Adrianne Knoppic DVD for a live linux. It works on my old laptop, won't even start to boot with the new one. I've checked the Secure Boot setting a dozen times, but I'm still wondering if somehow there is a secure boot thing happening. Only media that install different linux distros fail. Windows DVD; works. Video DVD; works.

I called HP to see about why Windows 10 doesn't work when I change over to Legacy. The person I spoke to said that Windows 10 will only work with Secure Boot. I think he may have meant UEFI. I felt no need to argue with the person. My personal experience with Windows 10 seems to say he's wrong. And obviously, there are so many articles about how to disable secure boot and Windows 10 still works. But I figured I would just bang my head against the wall to say something contrary to what this guy was told to say.
 
  


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