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I'm building a live distro version of slackware and decided that this stuff didn't belong on a lightweight system. First thing I did was remove the mysql package (why have a database on a livecd?). This breaks Akonadi. Despite the fact if you turn off akonadi and nepomuk in the kde control center, they still load as system processes. To break that you have to go in /usr/bin and rename nepomukservicestub, nepomukserver, akonadi_control, and akonadiserver. One last thing is to remove the gvfs package. Cheers! |
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The first thing I do with KDE is un-install, that is I don't even bother to install, akondai and then disable nepomuk and strigi (sp) in settings and turn off nepomuk services in the sevice manager. |
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I didn't even see nepomuk in the service manager, but even after disabling it there, I still see: 1 S 1000 2349 2214 0 80 0 - 30533 poll_s ? 00:00:00 nepomukserver 1 Z 1000 2352 2349 0 80 0 - 0 exit ? 00:00:00 nepomukserver <defunct> in my processes. Do you have that clear from your processes? I'm trying to clean up the kernel a bit as well. So far I've removed IPv6 (until it can be secured better) and Network File Systems, next time I'm removing RPC, should anything else be removed? |
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You really should give the Chakra Linux project a try. It is a fork of Arch that focuses on making the best KDE desktop possible. It still uses Pacman, but they are working on their own package manager. It's pretty slick, and the default theme is quite elegant. ;-) |
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I fiddled around quite a lot with these distros, and I've come to the conclusion that they're unusable in the long run, the more so if you're using Linux in production environments, as I do. The fact that the Arch forums are run by demi-gods talking down to you from their cloud of thunder doesn't help either. |
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It took a bit of finangling (read as dirty hack), but I did manage to compile (portions of) kde 4.11.0 without nepomuk.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps2c743385.png I like the new gl compositing options. http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps2b365130.png Can't really tell a difference, but it seems flash video doesn't work as well with open gl 3.1 compositing (which it shouldn't be using anyway?). |
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Distro-hopping is a lot of fun but I am a Slackware user through and through. There is no better way to compute, in my opinion. The neat thing about the Chakra project is that they recognize the tumultuous nature of Arch and freeze the tool chain, and other important parts of the system to help with stability (they call it a half/rolling release). They also use their own repositories. I am not in any way claiming that it is stable like Slackware, but in my own experience I have found it quite stable. It is, if nothing else, a nice diversion and implementation of KDE. Also, the forums are quite a bit friendlier. On a side note, I really can't stand how patronizing Arch users are either, considering that once you get through installation and configuration, Arch is probably one of the EASIEST distros to use. Along with the AUR, they have a binary package for everything. Even in Ubuntu I have to add PPA's. Just sayin'. :-0 |
In the small time i used Arch, i found the users quite tolerable. On a side note, you can't argue that Arch has if not the best, one of the best wikis of all distros.
As for Charkra, i tried it about a year ago, appealed by it's half rolling release cycle you mentioned. In all fairness, i had no stability issues, so i've got to give them that; but i had a hell of a time with their tools to handle bundles (they may be improved by now). I'm not a fan of the separation of gtk applications. |
Well as per OP's article, it is possible to get kde (4.11) up and running without nepomuk, akonadi and gam_server. It runs well and fast.
Here's the logs: http://pastebin.com/GtRhkeD7 (what may look like errors aren't really- except I need to recompile the printer-applet) Here's my process list: http://pastebin.com/ELefJrus Notice no nepomukserver. It runs in 162mb of memory but that is with most effects enabled. You will have to do without (ie remove) amarok, calligra, kde-pim and kde-pim runtime (I left the kde-pim libraries) as all of these require nepomuk/akonadi. Edit: And here's a screenshot of system settings without nepomuk and akonadi. http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...psebfbe904.png |
A few more notes- since I've been playing with this. When compiling kde-runtime if you whitelist drkonqi from the Cmakelist.txt (and while you're at it, nepomuk and kwalletd), you will remove the dependency on kde-pim libraries. I have the memory footprint down to 132mb now.
I haven't had plasma crash so I don't really know how it will react with removing drkonqi. I do know before, drkonqi wasn't much help anyway (which influenced my decision to do away with kde-pim libs). I'm tempted to try this with nepomuk in kde-libraries as well. Edit: Also I have found Clementine to be a most excellent replacement for Amarok- without the nepomuk/akonadi dependencies. |
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