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Old 04-18-2019, 09:47 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by hazel View Post
All my computers have always been second hand.
Same. I did buy one new i3 Dell @ 3.3 GHZ in 2012. I've since retired that unit and am know running used i7 desktops. My last 32 bit unit was recycled a few years ago.
I've had very good luck so far buying used PCs on ebay and other computer reseller sites.
Old 04-18-2019, 02:49 PM   #17
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I have a few older machines myself. I have owned computers since 1992 (my first computer was a Tandy 1000 SX, with MS-DOS version 3.2 or 3.3), which was given to my family for free from a close friend. I don't have that computer anymore.

Anyway I been building computers for the past 22 years, since about 1997, and I try to keep them running until they break down, and need to be upgraded or replaced. I also have a bunch of spare parts, as you can inagine.

My main computer is something I built myself from various parts, most of the parts ranging in age from 2007 to about 2010. It currently has a SuperMicro server/workstation motherboard with Intel Xeon X3450 CPU (2.66 GHz, 4 cores, 8 threads), 32 GB ECC Ram, NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT, and muliple SATA hard drives. The motherboard, CPU and RAM I bought as a complete package, back in 2016 from eBay. I already had the hard drives, video card, case, power supply, etc. The CPU was released by Intel in 2009, and is based on a 1st gen core i7. I run various Linux distos on this computer, including Slackware.

I also have a Dell Latitude E6400 laptop (about 2008 era), with a Core 2 Duo CPU of 2.66 GHz, 4 GB RAM, and a 250 GB hard drive. Currently has Slackware 14.2 (64 bit) installed on it. That is my main laptop, I got it for free in 2017. Still has a good battery.

I also have a Dell Vostro 1500 laptop, got it for free in 2016, which has a Core 2 Duo 1.66 GHz CPU, 2.5 GB RAM, and either 160 or 250 GB hard drive. I don't remember exact size. Has Linux on it, don't remember which disto.

I also have two netbooks, both made around 2008-2009 vintage, with Atom CPU's. I don't use them for anything right now.

One is a Dell with a single core, 32 bit Atom CPU, with 1 GB RAM, and 32 GB SSD drive.

While the other is a HP with a dual core, 64 bit Atom CPU, and 2 GB RAM, and a 250 GB hard drive.

I also have a HP T5630 thin client computer, with FreeDOS installed on it. That has a single core VIA Eden 32 bit CPU of 1 GHz, 1 GB RAM memory, and a 1 GB internal ATA flash drive (where FreeDOS is installed).


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Old 04-18-2019, 03:04 PM   #18
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To add on my own hardware..

I have a an Acer Aspire One 522, I think from about 2011 or 12.

It has an AMD C-50 APU.. 1ghz dual core.
Came with 1gb ram
160gb hdd
Windows 7 starter edition

On the one hand it had a lot more GPU power than any of the Intel Atom based netbooks.. but on the other it ran hot, slow, and despite being dual core the 1ghz hurts.

After I got it I quickly upgraded to 4gb ram and installed Windows 7 pro. I used it for a while, hell even did some gaming on it:

After a while I got sick of using it with how slow the hard drive was.. I didn't have the motivation to tear it open and try to put an SSD in from how hard it was to just upgrade the ram, furthermore there's something wrong with the LCD cable causing it to flicker sometimes and it's pretty random.

It sat dormant from 2013 or 14 until sometime in 18 when I got back into Slackware.. I figured why not see how it runs?

Turns out.. okay. The 1ghz CPU is a huge bottle neck, as is that very slow hard drive. I don't think I could handle doing any real work on it.

I've got other old stuff but they're all 32 bit machines that run things varying from MS-DOS, Windows 98 and 2000.. I don't feel like it's worth installing Linux on anything that doesn't have a 64 bit CPU at this point, not unless it's all you've got anyway. These machines serve specific use cases, mainly 90s PC gaming.

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Old 04-18-2019, 03:15 PM   #19
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All my computers have always been second hand.
I bought a refurbished ThinkPad X230 two years ago. Didn't even bother to boot Windows, just replaced its HDD with a brand new SSD where I installed Slackware 14.2. A year later I purchased a 9 cell battery. Runs great and at work meetings I am the only one who never plugs his laptop to the electricity network.

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Old 04-18-2019, 03:34 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by ReFracture View Post AMD Turion 64 X2 1.6ghz, 1gb ram, a 160gb 5400 RPM HDD, and a GeForce 6150m.
Dual core is the dividing line I think.

I'm typing this on my oldest hardware, a Thinkpad T42 with BIOS date November 2005 (serial number sticker on bottom is unreadable), 1Gb RAM, 40G hard drive, and Radeon graphics, single core Centrino M processor. Runs a full install of Slackware current OKish. Happier on xfce4 than kde4. You can surf web sites for the news, do basic office documents, listen to mp3s &c. Better one application at a time.

The next oldest hardware is an X60 with sticker date of December 2006, 32bit dual core with a SATA interface (and so I fitted a small SSD). 2Gb of RAM. Makes a huge difference. I could probably use that machine as my main one if I had to. Not bad for a 12 year old machine.

I buy second hand electronics as it is cheaper, mostly works, and keeps the stuff out of landfill or export for parts recycling under less well regulated conditions. I do like the more recent screens though...
Old 04-18-2019, 04:02 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by keithpeter View Post
Dual core is the dividing line I think.
Yep, going from single to dual core is a real eye opener.

Originally Posted by keithpeter View Post
I do like the more recent screens though...
Honestly this is the hardest part about using an older laptop.

That Presario V6000's LCD is an abomination. It's hard to imagine that they were any worse but I was playing around with an old Toshiba Satellite from about 2000 that runs Windows 2000.. yeah they were even worse alright.

If I had to use the Presario as a daily driver and I didn't need any mobility at all I would hook up an external mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
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In the last 6 months I
a) retired all 12 of my wife's classroom computers running P4-Ds (before "Core") running Windows XP. They just couldn't run any newish browser anymore. Replaced them all with DH61 mboards (Ivy Bridge era), G645/G970/etc. There were a few in the mix that had already been upgraded some: Athlon 5600 x2, E6300 or somthing like that, and an even older Athlon 3200XP+ that I bought in '04 as my first machine in the US. Those machines are now running Slackware Current (as of December 2018 sometime). They just need to be able to run a recent browser.

b) while doing a), also retired my Abit IP35 boards (3 of 'em) running various functions, including main file server. Upgraded everything to at least Ivy Bridge. And a BCRM RX660 board or something like that (another 775 LGA board). The file server was still sort of running, but the main, really old 32-GB SSD was acting up, so I just dumped everything pre-DDR3 in one fell swoop.

Which brings me to the reason for posting here: as a result of a) and b), I have 11 2GB DDR2 DIMMs and a couple of 1 GBs. I no longer have any machines that will take them. If you're running an older machine and have room for more RAM, let me know. I'll also gladly accept 2 GB DDR3 sticks if anyone has any laying around.

I think I still have a few Q6600s and a Q9550 (unknown status) and maybe a couple of other 775 LGA CPUs as well - it appears the mboards from that era die before the CPUs. If you want to play around, let me know. Free for the asking within the US.
Old 04-19-2019, 02:26 AM   #23
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I get by OK.
Old 04-19-2019, 05:15 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by ReFracture View Post
Let's talk about old computers.

Do you run something daily that you could conceivably find sitting out on a curb or at a goodwill?

Currently I have two machines running that should fit that bill (by a fair stretch).

One is serving as my login server, internal mirror (slackware and a few other things) and some fileserver duties.
It's a Dell Optiplex 760 MT (Mini Tower - the biggest case version of those machines).

Sports a Core 2 Quad (Q8300) @2.50GHz, 6GB RAM (because I didn't have/couldn't find more than two 2GB sticks when I was upgrading) and a couple of disks.
According the date of the BIOS is would be from around December 2009.
Unsure how long I have had it running, but I would think around 4 years.

The second machine is currently serving as my firewall.
It's an old HP small formfactor desktop something or the other (maybe HP Compaq?).
It's placement is rather awkward do I'd rather not go check (also I would rather not touch it too much these days).

It has an Amd Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, a whopping 2GB RAM (more than it needs, really) and a small disk.

It was an emergency upgrade/downgrade/sidegrade/replacement from my original firewall which was (IIRC) an old Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo of some kind, which died all of a sudden.

That HP was the only machine easily at hand at that point in time which both wasn't a tower case (didn't really have room for that) and also had pata-connector (since the firewall disk was pata disk). The only snag, was that the dual nic in the original firewall was high profile, while the HP only have low profile slots. So.. That machine runs in cabriolet mode
Bios date on it is early 2006. I think it's been running here for maybe as long as 3 years now (at least around 2). Time flies

I do have replacements in mind for both of these machines, but such things tend to happen slowly.

The former I haven't yet quite decided what to replace with.

For the latter I already have a machine ready (hardware wise) for. I "just" need to manage wrapping my head sufficiently around nftables first.

Old 04-20-2019, 05:26 AM   #25
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@ReFracture: I think I bottomed your box (until recently). I had the HP 6715S, Twin Turion, AMD RS690/SB600 Northbridge & graphics/Southbridge, manufactured 2007. The graphics were some of the poorest AMD built after they started trying. I couldn't even lip synch on an average youtube movie at full screen. If I had a speaker standing still and talking, it could manage that. There's tricks for 'trailing edge computing' and observing those I ran that until 2017, when a hardware failure caused it to fail POST and it wouldn't boot. I used it for general browsing/mail/stuff, then writing VHDL using a couple of 15G hardware suites.

I also ran perhaps the dodgiest box in history: An AMD Athlon, Via MPV3 Chipset with the famous Via Hardware fault, SiS 6326 graphics, and some dodgy ISA soundcard. It was a rapid learning experience for a linux newbie! In practise the hardware fault was a non-issue - they had configured the chipset around the foibles of the Creative Soundblaster, and once you configured it back, everything was fine. The SiS 6326 lacked the basic video modes everyone esle provided and all the distros relied on so text mode installs were your only way. The kernel screamed in protest at the pci driver. You had to compile a kernel with no generic support for pci, but that particular driver compiled in.

The hardest one was the usb, which had 6 ports, 2 of which were STRANGE, continually throwing overcurrent errors. That resulted eventually after marathon efforts on my part and others in a kernel patch for those specific machines in ehci_hcd. Via had disabled 2 of 6 ports in later models of the same chipset without even telling their software guys. They got bought over at some stage after that.
Old 04-20-2019, 09:33 PM   #26
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I have two Slackware machines, both running 14.2. The new one is a homebuilt AMD 64 desktop with 8 GB of ram and a 1 TB drive. That is my main machine. I also have 14.2 loaded on a 2009-vintage HP Probook 4510s laptop (originally a Vista machine, then Win 7, then Win 10. I finally fixed it right and put Slackware on it.) The Probook has an Intel I5 dual 32 bit processor, 4 GB of memory and a 300 GB hard drive. They both work great.
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:26 AM   #27
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Smile 2008 - Fujitsu A6110 notebook

This is an interesting conversation!

My home computer is a Fujitsu A6110 from 2008. Built like a tank and still going strong. I have cleaned it inside out two times all this time, the second time being just yesterday. [CPU thermal compound and the fan needed special attention on the first clean. Second clean mostly to do with the cooling fan noise.]

As for use, its mostly browsing online, watching movies and listening to music for the leisure part. It runs faster and more efficiently with Slackware and Xfce as compared to Windows, which i still have in some corner for some applications that i need for work. [The cooling fan speed is on max or close when using compared to Slackware where it goes to max only when i am upgrading packages or browsing a graphics heavy website.]

The only downsides are that i am not able to watch my videos from the GoPro 360 camera. I also re-built the battery pack on the first clean...which lasted me two years...and now i need to re-build it again. And yeah...the DVD drive is not working as it used to. Its hit and miss.

I will be upgrading in the near my expectations for a good machine [7-8 yrs. before upgrade] have been met and exceeded :-)

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Old 04-21-2019, 03:27 AM   #28
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Toshiba Satellite M40

I have installed last month Slackware Linux 14.2 on a Toshiba Satellite M40 of 2005. The characteristics are:
  • Processor: Intel Celeron
  • Video Card Radeon XPress 200M
  • Memory 512Mb
  • Hard Drive 60Gb
Since 2010, that computer was running Slackware 13.0 and before that Debian Sarge. I have made a reduced installation without KDE,KDEI and XFCE building instead the Common Desktop Environment from source with xmsvm/dtvolman to handle USB memory sticks. So far, the computer is running satisfactorily. While previously suspending to memory would cause a crash at restart, with the 4.4 kernel the computer wakes up even in runlevel 5. This is not anymore my main computer (I purchased a 64bit computer preloaded with Ubuntu LTS in 2018) but it is interesting to see that such 14 years old low spec hardware remains usable thanks to Slackware. On the question of distributions still supporting 32bit, a quick search on distrowatch shows that except Slackware and some of its derivatives, only Gentoo, Mageia, ALT Linux and ROSA Linux remain (maybe Debian/Devuan were missed because they use a different designation for 32 bit Intel). The last 3 are derivatives of Mandriva Linux (Mageia is French, ALT and ROSA Russian).
Old 04-21-2019, 01:52 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by edorig View Post
On the question of distributions still supporting 32bit, a quick search on distrowatch shows that except Slackware and some of its derivatives, only Gentoo, Mageia, ALT Linux and ROSA Linux remain.
Don't forget MX Linux ( that is currently #1 on distrowatch. I have just finished setting it up on a Q6600 and it is both nice and fast.

disclaimer) that machine used to run MLED; I really wish there was still a good-looking Slackware XFCE respin targetting these older machines.
Old 04-21-2019, 02:15 PM   #30
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I'm not sure if these computers count as ancient but Slack 64 14.2 runs nicely on my HPE ProLiant ML110 G6 (Xeon 2.6ghz quad-core, 8GB RAM) and my Dell PowerEdge R710 (four quad-core Xeon 2.6ghz for 16 cores, 48GB RAM, dual 146GB hard drives). Both computers had Windows Server when I was given them and it's amazing how much faster those computers became when installing Slack.

The ProLiant is my "daily driver" as it powers my BBS running MBSE (I am also a MBSE developer). I don't have the room to use the R710 yet but am hoping to move the BBS to it one of these days.

I also have Slack 32 14.2 installed on an Asus Eee PC 900 from 2008 without any issues. That little computer flies with Slack on it.

I've been using Slack since 2000 and I have yet to grow tired of using it.
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