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Old 06-24-2003, 04:59 AM   #1
cassidy
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kppp setup dialogue problem (+various kde apps)


Hello, i have slackware 9 installed for about a month now and i'm totally satisfied with it. I've been a windows user for 7 years and in this month slackware made me realize what a mistake that was.

Anyway, to the point.

I launch kppp and i press the setup button. The kppp configuration tab appears. Once i close the configuration tab, i cannot reopen it. When I press setup again, the tab appears for less than a second and then disappears. Kppp is still working though, i just can't access the setup screen. And then i have to quit kppp and relaunch it for things to get back to normal.

Same with kmix ("configure kmix...")

It also happens in the KDE Control Center.
for example
Control Center>>Sound & Multimedia>>System Notifications>>"player settings"

I can't think of anything else right now, but i'm sure i've seen it happen in other kde applications as well.

It's the 3.1.0 kde release (came with the package).

Any ideas?

thanks in advance
 
Old 06-24-2003, 12:18 PM   #2
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Try running kppp or kcontrol or whatever from a terminal/console, and see if it lists an error message.
 
Old 06-24-2003, 01:50 PM   #3
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I've already tried that.

Unfortunately, i don't get any error messages in the console. So, i don't know where to start looking.

I did a couple of searches on google, came up with similar cases but no answers whatsoever.

This has been happening from the first day i've installed slackware. So, i guess it doesn't have anything to do with the changes i've made on the system. It happens both in root and user accounts.

thanks for replying
 
Old 06-24-2003, 04:01 PM   #4
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Do you have your loopback interface running so dcop can deal with KDE windows? I had a KDE problem when I'd stopped it being auto-started.
Run route post the output.
 
Old 06-24-2003, 05:10 PM   #5
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Code:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
prometheus.dial *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
loopback        *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
default         prometheus.dial 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ppp0
I did a search on google and got a vague idea of what the dcop protocol and the loopback interface is. Still, a veeeeery vague idea. Do kde applications use this interface to communicate with each other?

I really can't tell if the loopback interface is set correctly from the above route output... too much of a newbie.

I found this in the Net-HOWTO, to configure the loopback device:
root# ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
root# route add -host 127.0.0.1 l

the new route output is
Code:

Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
localhost       *               255.255.255.255 UH       40 0          0 lo
loopback        *               255.0.0.0       U        40 0          0 lo
The problem is still there though.

(what is the "localhost" destination that i blindly added? do i need it?)

from the /etc/hosts file
127.0.0.1 localhost
127.0.0.1 darkstar.example.net darkstar


did i just duplicate the 127.0.0.1 under a new name?
that's what the loopback interface uses, yes?

i think i have to get some sleep now
thanks for your time
 
Old 06-25-2003, 01:48 PM   #6
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I get:
Code:
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
imsnet-cl10-hg2 *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
127.0.0.0       *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
default         imsnet-cl10-hg2 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ppp0
So the original loopback looks ok. IP 127.0.0.1 is your machine, and I just know dcop requires it or opening a KDE file browsing dialog while online takes minutes.
Back to the original problem, have you tried those tests in other window managers?
 
Old 06-26-2003, 02:36 AM   #7
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Yes, i tried xfce, fvwm, window manager. Same problem.

The only thing that doesn't work on my computer is Gnome. It didn
t launch from the first day i tried it. I was missing some critical files at first (although i'd made a full install), which i downloaded later. Now, it sort of launches, but i get no toolbar ( i think one appears after 3-4 minutes) and generally it behaves oddly. I tried the safe-gnome-session as well. Same results.

Those missing files made me think there was sth wrong with my installation cd, maybe some data was corrupted. But i liked KDE better anyway, so i didn't insist on the matter (although xfce looks nice too).

A friend of mine that installed from the same cd has the same problem with the kde apps. So i guess that's it, since noone else has it.

What do i do now? Find another cd and re-install all gnome packages?
What happens if, for instance, i re-install all KDE packages?
How is that going to affect my system?

Well, everything else works just fine, and i wouldn't want to spoil it like that. Now that i think of it, i'd rather live with that glitch, it kind of gives my desktop ... personality
 
Old 06-26-2003, 07:05 AM   #8
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I've experienced the same problem with kppp ... I assumed it was just a kppp issue, if I close and restart the app it works the first time then sometimes will break again.

I've given up on kppp though as it won't connect to my ISP.
 
Old 09-21-2003, 04:50 PM   #9
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Unhappy pls help

I actually have the SAME exact problem with kppp and the other apps. anybody knows how to fix this, it is kinda annoying. i love slackware so can some1 pls help?
 
Old 09-22-2003, 08:30 AM   #10
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is it a slackware bug or something?
 
Old 09-22-2003, 08:40 AM   #11
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can anyone recomend a good kppp alternative?
I mean other ppp app that works better
 
  


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