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Old 04-10-2018, 08:57 AM   #16
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@TheTKS I should also add that my last name was aquired via marriage. I took my wife's last name. Thus if Ingrid is related to me it would be via someone on my wife's side of the family. Hell, I am not even Norwegian. I am British/Irish (though never actually lived in Ireland), hence the first name. So it is possibly that Ingrid is in the extended family after all and I just don't realise it. I guess I should ask my wife or better yet my sister in law. She is the one who keeps the best track of our extended family.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:41 AM   #17
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I think she has done a good job with appear.in and people here recognise that.

https://blog.appear.in/blog/ingrid-o...ch-women-award

Also, she seems like a really nice person.
It does seem she has some impressive accomplishments. All the more reason for me to give this application a try.

And a nice person on top of that accomplishment.

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So it is possibly that Ingrid is in the extended family after all and I just don't realise it. I guess I should ask my wife or better yet my sister in law. She is the one who keeps the best track of our extended family.
Yeah, it's funny what connections you can find in family and friends when you dig a bit.
 
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Old 04-11-2018, 12:13 AM   #18
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Actually I have.
Oh Really ??? If you were, you would stop promoting self.censorship tools like skype et al.

Banning offensive language is a form of self.censorship.

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Though as stated, I used it once in a blue moon, typically for work, where the other party requests it.
No problem, I tend to speak to my wife in person.
Oh - so weak excuses make it ok to keep promoting this sh*t.

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... typically for work, where the other party requests it. ...
Just say No. People are afraid to say No, afraid to miss out, afraid to be different.

If you weren't afraid If you would have the guts, you would just say no and stop promoting these programs that spy on people.

People smarter than me have first warned about this - a controlled, data hungry, monitored & restricted internet - almost ten years ago.

And nothing has changed, it has only gotten worse.

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If people want something different, there is always https://appear.in
a white page is very very informative. What a load of cr*p.

Yes - I browse the www with javascript turned off and adblock/tracking protection lists.

Why don't you teach people how to talk to each other without using a centralized service.

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Old 04-11-2018, 03:55 AM   #19
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@MadMaverick9: you are free not to use skype for any reason as I am free to use it, for instance to speak with my brother in North America or to help a blind guy installing Linux from a remote location.

Conversely, everyone is free to use a smartphone and the so called "social" networks, although I don't.
 
Old 04-11-2018, 07:19 AM   #20
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@MadMaverick9 You are kinda angry aren't you? When I use skype it is for work. I don't have the luxury of pushing back hard on its usage, particularly when talking with external companies. I like having a job. In fact I need to have one to support my family. If you are in a different situation or feel strongly enough that you will push back nonethless, fine but don't assume we can all do the same.

With regards to appear.in. The fact that the web based version of their site uses Javascript seems reasonable to me given what the product does. I do not see how they could build a web based service like this without Javascript.

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Why don't you teach people how to talk to each other without using a centralized service.
I could say the same to you. I haven't seen any suggested alternatives from you.
 
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:32 AM   #21
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@MadMaverick9 You are kinda angry aren't you?
Gosh ... Really ??? ... I hadn't noticed.
I wonder why ???

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... but don't assume we can all do the same.
Same old excuse ...
Code:
ruario    : I just don't have any more time for you right now.
aristippus: All you have is right now, Jack.
The rest I am not even gonna bother answering ... You can draw your own conclusions what that means ... I don't care ...
 
Old 04-11-2018, 01:56 PM   #22
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I can not believe people are still promoting this PoS.
I bought a Windows phone to check whether its accessibility features were better implemented than Android's. As it happens they were. By far. Skype was also on the phone, and I use it for just one contact. I've never installed it on a computer or phone myself, and I don't promote it. When I ran a business I refused to install it and refused to have it installed on any network I looked after. But if you consider using Skype on a single Windows phone to keep in touch with a single contact is promoting Skype then good for you.
 
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Old 04-13-2018, 12:11 AM   #23
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An alternative is WIRE. There is an slackbuild and it works quite nicely. You have to create userid, but then invite others to join you on WIRE, no lookup, then once invited the other person sends you their userid which you can put in a contacts list. There is no tracking or verification of those in your contact list as being "on-line". You can record and leave a voice/video message. It is a direct user to user service and doesn't require a 3rd party server. The call quality is excellent. It as a single purpose, video conferencing. Just like it is suppose to be in Linux, one program for one purpose and do it well! Running it now on my Slackware64-14.2 multilib with Nouveau driving a Geforce 8400GS. Cheers.
 
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:37 AM   #24
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Thanks, this is probably of interest to some here. Sadly for my own use at work it is bit more of a problem. Not just convincing third parties to switch but asking them to pay for it. I see from the front page of wire.com that it is “Free for personal use”. For business there is a cost https://wire.com/en/pricing/
 
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:38 AM   #25
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Hmmm... one of the people behind Wire is Janus Friis, who is a co-founder of Skype.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 02:41 AM   #26
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And like Skype, it is Chromium/Electron based as well I see
 
Old 04-14-2018, 07:39 PM   #27
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Thanks ruario, your script has painlessly installed skype on my system. Like most on this thread I don't use skype that much but still require it from time to time. And your script makes it so easy
 
  


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