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View Poll Results: What windows manager do you use for you divine slackbox?
KDE 70 35.71%
Xfce 70 35.71%
GNOME 1 0.51%
other (blackbox, MATE, etc.) 55 28.06%
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Old 07-08-2019, 12:55 AM   #121
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Funny how looks are such a personal thing. I really disliked the Windows XP look of KDE3, KDE4 was a lot better but Plasma5 is really again a lot better in terms of looks. Everytime I go back to a KDE4 session on one of my Slackware 14.2 computers, I long to be running Plasma5 again.
And performance-wise as well as with regard to functionality, Plasma5 tops KDE4.

Please, just don't try to stick to what you are used to. Try something new from time to time. It's what keeps your mind young and sharp.
Don't become one of these old folk who can only talk about how everything was better when you were young, and that the youth of nowadays are worth nothing. You were that youth, long ago.
I have a machine with kde4 and another with plasma 5, and I agree with you Eric, my experience is the same as you
 
Old 07-08-2019, 08:16 AM   #122
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Funny how looks are such a personal thing. I really disliked the Windows XP look of KDE3, KDE4 was a lot better but Plasma5 is really again a lot better in terms of looks. Everytime I go back to a KDE4 session on one of my Slackware 14.2 computers, I long to be running Plasma5 again.
And performance-wise as well as with regard to functionality, Plasma5 tops KDE4.

Please, just don't try to stick to what you are used to. Try something new from time to time. It's what keeps your mind young and sharp.
Don't become one of these old folk who can only talk about how everything was better when you were young, and that the youth of nowadays are worth nothing. You were that youth, long ago.
"New" is not always better, one, and, two, from a personal point of view, as you mentioned, kde-5
is flat out ugly as compared to kde-4. It is purely subjective, I know, but how anyone can call kde-5 better looking than kde-4.... is..... well, as I said, it is subjective.
OTOH, kde-5 does seem to make better use of the hardware resources, but I don't see how all the clutter from the dozens and dozens of configuration files helps.
 
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Old 07-08-2019, 08:37 AM   #123
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Don't become one of these old folk who can only talk about how everything was better when you were young, and that the youth of nowadays are worth nothing.
Everything was better in the past, even the future ;-)
 
Old 07-08-2019, 09:03 AM   #124
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I also feel that some people have taken ownership of it, as though it's their own private property.
Would you care to elaborate what made you come to this conclusion? I have been using FVWM for over a year now but I do not follow the development closely.
 
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:48 AM   #125
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Everytime I go back to a KDE4 session on one of my Slackware 14.2 computers, I long to be running Plasma5 again.
And performance-wise as well as with regard to functionality, Plasma5 tops KDE4.
That is my experience as well. KDE 5 is very responsive compared to KDE 4. In my opinion it's time to retire KDE 4 from Slackware. If it happens KDE 5 will be a welcome addition to the -current branch.
 
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Old 07-08-2019, 11:34 AM   #126
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KDE v4 was the Vista of the Linux world.
 
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Old 07-08-2019, 02:14 PM   #127
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I'm one of those dinosaurs that hates change. However, there's nothing nicer than Plasma 5 appearance wise. I've had that looking incredibly nice. I have used it in kubuntu (kubuntu backports PPA), arch, manjaro and slackware-current (Alien Bob, of course) and when I set that up for other people I take the time and configure it to blow their minds before I give it to them.

While I don't want that anymore, preferring something a bit simpler yet having enough functionality, I do have to say that the alien build of Plasma 5 that I had was one of the best builds of it that I've ever had. Absolutely everything worked, which is more than I can say for most builds. The last time I had one where absolutely everything worked was the first time I tried it, Plasma 5.12 in kubuntu backports. After that there was always some styling function, or effects that didn't work.
 
Old 07-08-2019, 03:49 PM   #128
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Would you care to elaborate what made you come to this conclusion? I have been using FVWM for over a year now but I do not follow the development closely.
Just a sense from occasionally following the forums that the developers are very knowledgeable but also a little possessive about their baby.

With regard to dropped modules, man pages at fvwm.org will show you they have deprecated an awful lot in recent versions. Things like the Fvwm taskbar, for example. I haven't followed Fvwm development closely enough to know whether it was really warranted or just the whim of a developer.
 
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Old 07-10-2019, 01:03 AM   #129
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Everything was better in the past, even the future ;-)
The future isn't what it used to be...

... and it never was
 
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:36 AM   #130
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Interesting that XFCE seems to be an almost default go-to when people get fed up elsewhere. I was a die hard Gnome user for a few years and never did 'get' KDE. When I switched to Slackware I just fell into a comfort zone with XFCE for years.

I'm at the point now where changes in my workflow have made tiling very attractive. Starting with terminals and tmux, my frustrations finally lead me to i3[-gaps] and I'm quite happy with it. I might give DWM a run if it proves more flexible. But overall my days of caring about eye-candy appear largely over (though I never say never).
 
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:51 AM   #131
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Interesting that XFCE seems to be an almost default go-to when people get fed up elsewhere. I was a die hard Gnome user for a few years and never did 'get' KDE. When I switched to Slackware I just fell into a comfort zone with XFCE for years.

I'm at the point now where changes in my workflow have made tiling very attractive. Starting with terminals and tmux, my frustrations finally lead me to i3[-gaps] and I'm quite happy with it. I might give DWM a run if it proves more flexible. But overall my days of caring about eye-candy appear largely over (though I never say never).
Xfce largely "Just Works." It comes with everything most users would ever need, and allows for enough customization to keep most users happy. I don't run Xfce proper, but I use various Xfce applications: Thunar, xfce4-terminal (sometimes), xfce4-panel (and several plugins), and xfce4-power-manager.

I wouldn't say dwm is more flexible than i3, but it's arguably easier to set up.
 
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Old 07-11-2019, 12:06 AM   #132
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Funny that you mention looks Eric.
I like Plasma 5's Breeze very much (except for small things such as scrollbars which I find atrocious), but I like the old industrial look of KDE1/Win95 much more. Just recently a window decoration and look and feel package known as "Reactionary" was launched at the KDE Store and I was really happy. Now I alternate among the two looks: Breeze and Reactionary, and I'm a happy camper
 
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