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Old 10-06-2018, 01:00 PM   #16
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Try just running the README itself as a script and it'll do pretty much everything required:

sh README

I tested kshisen here on an ALSA-only system (starting it from within Xfce), and didn't run into any problem.
Thanks so much, Pat! Will report back shortly.
 
Old 10-06-2018, 01:43 PM   #17
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This is odd. I just did a clean install of Slackware64-current using my Oct. 4th ISO. Copied over the pure-alsa-sytem software from /extra. I ran the README as a script; it completed without errors. Updated the system with slackpkg. Did a system reboot. Same errors. kshisen, k3b, klickety don't launch from XFCE. I'm stumped.
 
Old 10-06-2018, 01:55 PM   #18
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Did you ever complete the run the script I linked you? It should still narrow this down....
 
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Copied over the pure-alsa-sytem software from /extra. I ran the README as a script; it completed without errors. Updated the system with slackpkg.
Actually after reading this again I think I have a hypothesis, slackpkg is reinstalling the default packages over the pure-alsa-system packages.

I changed this line in /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf to avoid this and while this has not revealed any problems for me I'm still not sure this is the ideal way to do it.

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# Default value: patches %PKGMAIN extra pasture testing
PRIORITY=( patches extra %PKGMAIN pasture testing )
 
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Old 10-06-2018, 02:04 PM   #20
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Did you ever complete the run the script I linked you? It should still narrow this down....
Yup. libpulse.so.0 and libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0 are showing as not found.

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Old 10-06-2018, 02:13 PM   #21
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Yup. libpulse.so.0 and libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0 are showing as not found.
The important part is what files want them and what packages those files belong to.
 
Old 10-06-2018, 03:18 PM   #22
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I just read the readme on that only thing I can think of is . I believe you need to make /etc/rc.alsa executable or alsa will not run correct. Not sure how he gets around kplayer since that blob is built with KDE. but Oh well I like pulse audio it works well and is a server that can be turned off at will. at anytime you can run pure alsa since Slackware builds against alsa and Pulse audio requires alsa.

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Old 10-06-2018, 03:29 PM   #23
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I just read the readme on that only thing I can think of is . I believe you need to make /etc/rc.alsa executable or alsa will not run correct. Not sure how he gets around kplayer since that blob is built with KDE. but Oh well I like pulse audio it works well and is a server that can be turned off at will. at anytime you can run pure alsa since Slackware builds against alsa and Pulse audio requires alsa.
Thanks, Drakeo. Sound is working just fine with alsa. It is the KDE apps that don't launch.
 
Old 10-06-2018, 07:26 PM   #24
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Many thanks to orbea, ppr:kut, Pat, and Drakeo for your kind help. Five out of six Slackware units work just fine. This one laptop is an oddity.
Have a great evening, gents.
 
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Interesting. Sound works perfectly when I run README.sh and set-up a pure-alsa-system; and KDE applications all work. KDE applications only break when I run Slackpkg upgrade-all and install the upgraded alsa and KDE components.
For now I am going to blacklist these components until I can figure out which update is breaking the KDE apps. This may be a situation unique to my Thinkpad or maybe the -current ISO I used?! I'll be curious to see what happens when I do a clean install of 15.0. Looking forward to tinkering and trying to figure this out. Marking this as solved for now.
 
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Interesting. Sound works perfectly when I run README.sh and set-up a pure-alsa-system; and KDE applications all work. KDE applications only break when I run Slackpkg upgrade-all and install the upgraded alsa and KDE components.
For now I am going to blacklist these components until I can figure out which update is breaking the KDE apps. This may be a situation unique to my Thinkpad or maybe the -current ISO I used?! I'll be curious to see what happens when I do a clean install of 15.0. Looking forward to tinkering and trying to figure this out. Marking this as solved for now.
I don't mean to repeat myself, but maybe you missed this reply?

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Actually after reading this again I think I have a hypothesis, slackpkg is reinstalling the default packages over the pure-alsa-system packages.

I changed this line in /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf to avoid this and while this has not revealed any problems for me I'm still not sure this is the ideal way to do it.

Code:
# Default value: patches %PKGMAIN extra pasture testing
PRIORITY=( patches extra %PKGMAIN pasture testing )
 
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Old 10-10-2018, 11:19 AM   #27
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I don't mean to repeat myself, but maybe you missed this reply?
Thanks so much for re-posting this reply, orbea! I was asleep at the wheel and missed it. Applied your modification to /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf.
All is well.
 
Old 10-11-2018, 03:57 PM   #28
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Then, I see no reason for our BDFL to continue to spend his precious time with this prone for total failures experiment called "pure-alsa-system", like yourself demonstrated right here.

And that's OK, he tried his best, but is not worth continuing, considering the time spent vs. the results - then let's remove that thing from -current and call a day...
I really am curious as to how a person who seems to have a decently active brain can present himself in such poor light.... or do you actually convince yourself that everyone has the same case as you and should do everything just like you do? In any case don't you understand how trivial,foolish and petty such responses make you look to where anyone seeing "Darth Vader" (and that moniker alone might be a clue) expects to never take what you write seriously before they even read it if they even bother to do so? Maybe try more to be a team player.... you know... different strokes for different folks.

Thankfully Patrick, Eric and the actually serious contributors have a MUCH wider, more mature view.


..... Or... you could devise your own distro and see if it can last a year let alone decades.
 
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Thankfully Patrick, Eric and the actually serious contributors have a MUCH wider, more mature view.
I am very grateful for the expertise here on LQ.
 
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:52 PM   #30
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..... Or... you could devise your own distro and see if it can last a year let alone decades.
Darkstar Linux, now defunct, was a Slackware derivative:
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=darkstar
https://www.linux.com/news/well-appo...-has-dark-side
 
  


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