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03-21-2005, 03:54 PM
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: California
Distribution: SuSE 10.0 (SUPER)
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KDE 3.4 now available on LinuxPackages
However, it's only listed for Slackware 10.1. Is it possible to install this on 10.0?
If so, is upgradepkg sufficient? How do I install it? Boot under initlevel 3 and upgradepkg? Or do I remove the existing kde packages then install the new ones? Are there any config files to change?
If it's not compatible with 10.0, what's the easiest way to install 10.1? I have the .isos already on hard disk. Can I do this while keeping all of my current settings?
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03-21-2005, 04:32 PM
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Actually all I ever do is just sit in kde, pop open konsole and cd to the dir where the packages all are and just do 'upgradepkg *'
Sit back and wait a few minutes. Then log out of kde back to kdm and just do 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to restart X. You now have kde 3.4
Or if you don't start in init 4 then just exit kde back to commandline and then just 'startx' and kde 3.4 will come up.
If you're unsure about doing it while in kde don't worry. All that is happening is yes you are putting in a new kde but heres the cool thing, you can use kde while upgrading its packages because kde is all sitting in RAM. So you can still use konsole and konqueror and some stuff without any problems. Heck once I forgot to restart X after a kde upgrade and used the kde that was in RAM for like 2 or 3 days without even noticing.
Last edited by Namaseit; 03-21-2005 at 04:51 PM.
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03-21-2005, 05:44 PM
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Location: California
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Cool. What about the 10.1 vs. 10.0 issue? Ideally, I'd like to install KDE 3.4 right onto 10.0, because I don't think 10.1, minus KDE 3.4, justifies the upgrade (to me, at least). However, if I have to install 10.1, I'd like to know how to do it while preserving all my settings.
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03-21-2005, 06:37 PM
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You mean like all your desktop settings and window preferences etc.? Just save your user directory. Everything Is in there related to specific kde settings.
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03-21-2005, 07:23 PM
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Arkansas
Distribution: Ubuntu 8.10
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Quote:
Originally posted by apachedude
Cool. What about the 10.1 vs. 10.0 issue? Ideally, I'd like to install KDE 3.4 right onto 10.0, because I don't think 10.1, minus KDE 3.4, justifies the upgrade (to me, at least). However, if I have to install 10.1, I'd like to know how to do it while preserving all my settings.
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Actually, if the packages for KDE 3.4 were compiled using 10.1 you *might* run into some problems with the different versions of glibc. Not saying you WILL run into problems, but you MIGHT.
Later,
MMYoung
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03-21-2005, 09:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Namaseit
You mean like all your desktop settings and window preferences etc.? Just save your user directory. Everything Is in there related to specific kde settings.
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I meant more on the lines of Slackware 10.1 vs. 10.0. For example, I want to keep the kernel I custom-compiled, the udev rules I wrote, etc. I'm sure I forgot some stuff. I could live if I lost my program files...
What's the minimal change upgrade?
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03-21-2005, 09:19 PM
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Oh, well if you want to keep your kernel there is a couple ways you could do it. Just save the .config file in the kernel source directory as something like 2.6.11.config and then when you extract the sources into your newly installed system just copy the 2.6.11.config back to the kernel source directory as .config and then just 'make && make install' and you now have the same kernel. The other way is to save the sources directory and your bzImage and modules but that is a hassle. Saving one little file is so much more easier. It doesn't take long to compile the kernel anyways.
I don't know anything about the udev stuff. :\
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03-21-2005, 10:56 PM
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Canada
Distribution: Slackware 14
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Well... running "upgradepkg *" certainly fucked my system. Absolutely nothing that has anything to do with KDE works now. Good thing I learned Enlightenment the past couple of days.
Not even K3b will run, but I'm guessing it probably needs to be recompiled after upgrading KDE?
All I really care about is using Konqueror as a file browser anyway... so if anyone knows how I can get that working, that'd be nice.
When I run "konqueror&" from the command prompt, I just get this:
-bash: konqueror: command not found
I have tried adding /opt/kde/bin and /opt/kde/share/apps to my path, but I still get the same error. Man... what the hell happened? This sucks.
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03-21-2005, 11:20 PM
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Seiken - worse comes to worse, install kde again from CD#2. Then you can research
and try again. OR you can use anather WM (XFCE?) in the mean time.
So besides adding /opt/kde/bin to your path, have you tried cd'ing to /opt/kde/bin and
then trying it? and/or verifying its there?
I'm still downloading 3.4.0 at a painful 45K/sec - just about there though.
-tw
[EDITED] - Happy to report, 3.4.0 up and running with no problems as of yet.
Back to work now.
Last edited by tw001_tw; 03-22-2005 at 12:16 AM.
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03-21-2005, 11:36 PM
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Registered: Sep 2004
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Originally posted by tw001_tw
Seiken - worse comes to worse, install kde again from CD#2. Then you can research
and try again. OR you can use anather WM (XFCE?) in the mean time.
So besides adding /opt/kde/bin to your path, have you tried cd'ing to /opt/kde/bin and
then trying it? and/or verifying its there?
I'm still downloading 3.4.0 at a painful 45K/sec - just about there though.
-tw
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Yes, I have tried adding to my path and running from /opt/kde/bin, still no go. I ended up removepkg'ing all of the kde packages, and then adding arts, kdelibs, and kdebase, and now I can open konqueror again oh, and k3b too. only thing I miss now is how when I ran "konqueror /home/josh" before, it had all my mounted drives (cd, dvd, etc) listed under Devices in the left window. now Devices is empty.
Thanks for your suggestions. PS: I tried XFCE yesterday too, but so far I'm liking E better.
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03-22-2005, 12:07 AM
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Well I guess I could say, thats what you get for using linuxpackages.net
User beware.
Oh btw, that was the hugest oxymoron I've seen.
Last edited by Namaseit; 03-22-2005 at 12:09 AM.
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03-22-2005, 02:56 AM
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: In a Box where Slackware Rocks
Distribution: Slackware 11 -current
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so if I take a trip to KDE I can find the Slackware 10.1 Ugrade there? ISO or a file to install?
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03-22-2005, 06:40 AM
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally posted by Namaseit
Well I guess I could say, thats what you get for using linuxpackages.net
User beware.
Oh btw, that was the hugest oxymoron I've seen.
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Yeah, normally I prefer to compile from source... but I heard that KDE takes ages to compile, and I had a slightcase of the NOW NOW NOWs That'll teach me, I guess.
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