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Old 05-11-2018, 07:21 AM   #16
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You guys look at BIOS and UEFI as a two separate and distinct entities, maybe rivals.

In fact, the UEFI is an evolution of BIOS. UEFI is just an improved BIOS made to respond to today computing challenges, nothing more.

So, I can look at the question "is UEFI superior?" at most as rhetorical.
 
Old 05-11-2018, 07:31 AM   #17
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You guys look at BIOS and UEFI as a two separate and distinct entities, maybe rivals.

In fact, the UEFI is an evolution of BIOS. UEFI is just an improved BIOS made to respond to today computing challenges, nothing more.

So, I can look at the question "is UEFI superior?" at most as rhetorical.
Speak for yourself - no-one here hinted at the idea of "rivals" at all.

UEFI was designed from the ground up. It is an improved firmware interface rather than an "improved BIOS", and is indeed a separate and distinct firmware interface from BIOS.

However, you answered your own (non-rhetorical) question. UEFI is indeed superior. But that in no way makes it necessary for all use cases. To half borrow the metaphor from the earlier poster, it's horses for courses.
 
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Old 05-11-2018, 08:37 AM   #18
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The simple fact is that as motherboards and peripherals become more numerous and complex what can be supported in BIOS falls to it's sheer lack of possible bandwidth and storage size. So the IDEA of UEFI is absolutely a requirement in that it will become necessary over time as that complexity trend continues and grows. It is better to pre plan and implement before the need arises as waiting until "fires are tall enough to burn your ass" is the definition of crisis (poor) management. What sticks in people's craw, including mine, is that currently all that potential power is used for full color, mouse aware menu with just a very few actual improvements.... for now. There is also a more sinister potential in that all that room and power can now allow very serious advantage to firmware attacks either after the fact or built-in right from the beginning.

For these and other reasons I will use "Legacy" for as long as it is viable which will very likely be at least another decade.
 
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Old 05-11-2018, 11:13 AM   #19
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I have found none yet. For me, just a cosmetic point-and-click annoying change.
 
Old 05-13-2018, 07:09 PM   #20
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I've just got an SSD, which i am about to reinstall slackware onto (this will be the only OS present). I've never had any troubles with legacy boot with my motherboard, and i'm wondering... is it worth setting up an efi partition and using UEFI/ELILO?

Is there any real advantage to not using legacy BIOS/MBR to boot? I don't plan on having any windows, or secure boot nonsense on here, so if i install slackware with the MBR/LILO setup, is there actually going to be any noticeable difference? I ask, because i've never used UEFI/EFI to boot an OS.
If you're the kind of person who likes to try new kernels and/or distributions, then EFI booting is more flexible. Particularly if you use a boot manager like rEFInd. (http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/).

If you're going to set it and forget it, then use whichever is easiest for you.

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Old 05-14-2018, 12:13 AM   #21
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if a person ever gave you one of those atom laptops, those arent worth purchasing imo though since its barely used but i do sometimes plug it in and give it ago in this situation but thats just for scanning and all but the point is the atom is 32 64 bit and the laptop i grabbed was able to install the linux with efi boot and its really limitied but solely scanning device its not bad
 
Old 05-14-2018, 12:43 AM   #22
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I like that since after installing rEFInd and setting it to load using the /boot/vmlinuz-generic symlink that I don't have to run lilo any more. I just regenerate the initrd after a kernel update and rEFInd loads the new one on the next boot. No fuss, no muss!
Yes, and rEFIND also has a fallback option to boot the huge kernel if you forget to update the initrd.
 
Old 05-15-2018, 11:04 AM   #23
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There is no doubt (imo) that refind is very nice.
 
  


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