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Old 11-21-2018, 11:09 AM   #46
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Old 11-21-2018, 01:42 PM   #47
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Netcraft confirms it.
 
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Old 11-21-2018, 01:46 PM   #48
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Is Slackware dying?

@Lysander666
I must fully disagree with your statement. I started to use Slackware quite long time ago as my first Linux distribution.
I learned (I intended to).
Several years later, I tried other distributions. Very difficult to do things on my own, automatic stuff making unwanted things and so on : in one word, hell.
Slackware needs learning, true.
Thankfully, Slackware is easy to learn : basically, rtfm.
 
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Old 11-21-2018, 01:57 PM   #49
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@Lysander666
I must fully disagree with your statement. I started to use Slackware quite long time ago as my first Linux distribution.
I learned (I intended to).
I'm very pleased that you found it easy. When you say you must fully disagree with my statement, you can't disagree with the part where I said I found it hard, I did. I don't know what your background is in computing - or if you had any - but I can only say you must be predisposed with a mathematical/scientifically logical mentality which makes learning these things slightly easier than I. I imagine many users would not be so fortunate as to start off with Slackware and do as well for themselves, especially if they are used to a couple of decades of Windows usage.

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Thankfully, Slackware is easy to learn : basically, rtfm.
And that's the best way to be a good Linux user. I was taught that when I came to Debian, they pretty much threw the manual at me. But I'd come from a place [i.e. Windows] where everything "just worked" and if something didn't, one tended to go on the internet and whine or call up MS, rather than spend a while reading around. Windows doesn't teach people to RTFM, it teaches people to pass the buck, sometimes literally.
 
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:32 PM   #50
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Windows doesn't teach people to RTFM, it teaches people to pass the buck, sometimes literally.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 02:34 PM   #51
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Ah yes, it's the annual "Is <Slackware> <Gentoo> <dying> <dead>?" thread!
You forgot to add the grandfather of them all <*BSD>
 
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:53 PM   #52
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Last release was almost 2 1/2 years ago and before that it was 2 1/2 years before the release of 14.1, so, close to 5 years with only 1 release. Slackware seems to be in permanent development now like Duke Nukem Forever.
And? You think a distro is best measured by the frequency of releases? Then why do you even ask or care? You could just skip all that and install Ubuntu.

Slackware basically works like a rolling release system. It's your own responsibility. With Slackware we are lucky to have someone deliver a ready updated and excellent system every so often, which means we can drop our own updated system, and switch to a fresh installation once in awhile.

There is ofcourse the concern about new hardware and such, to actually be able to install a distro at all, other than that, a new release every so often is not really important. It's just bloody nice that we get it.
 
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:00 PM   #53
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I think Pat mentioned that, PAM and Kerberos, and maybe one more major addition that I'm not recalling, were in the works. It will be worth waiting for.
Are you serious? Now that I'm just investing a huge effort on Selinux on my Slackware 14.2. I'll have to learn those two as well? Or just uninstall them? hot dang..

Well, it's nice. Pat knows what he is doing, he adds the right things slowly, so I just trust it is the right decision. I'll adapt and I think everyone else can and will too.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 03:02 PM   #54
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I imagine many users would not be so fortunate as to start off with Slackware and do as well for themselves, especially if they are used to a couple of decades of Windows usage.
I'd say that it seemed straight forward after years trying to fix and tweak MS windows :-D

Anyway, your right : I've been used to computers early (but with very few skills) and I believe it goes with computers as it could with cars, better know a bit how it works than just turn the key and hope everything will run without any problem

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Windows doesn't teach people to RTFM, it teaches people to pass the buck, sometimes literally.
You couldn't make better statement!

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Old 11-21-2018, 03:09 PM   #55
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I'm pretty sure there are no rewards for white-knighting for Pat.
Actually, there is one big reward: sooner or later, we will get Slackware 15.0.

It's not entirely clear who's using whom in this relationship, but it's 25 years too late to worry about that
 
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:35 PM   #56
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Slackware seems to be in permanent development now like Duke Nukem Forever.
Excuse me, but nothing is comparable with Duke Nukem Forever.

Slackware is alive and kicking -stable got some kernel updates due to the project failure
of our two CPUs manufacturers, and -current has the newest stable kernel possible.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 03:59 PM   #57
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Duke Nukem Forever was released ages ago. It's come, gone, and been forgotten.

A more modern analogy would be the new Unreal Tournament.

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Old 11-21-2018, 04:16 PM   #58
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that 'new' unreal tournament makes me so sad.

As long as Pat has some good beer and a roof over his family.. I think Slackware is safe fellas.

But man I'd like to see that Slackware 15
 
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:33 PM   #59
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Actually the style of posts reminds me of a4z
 
Old 11-21-2018, 04:44 PM   #60
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Actually the style of posts reminds me of a4z
I was thinking of Caitlyn Martin, but sure, those too.
 
  


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