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Old 04-25-2019, 02:55 PM   #136
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Originally Posted by shevegen View Post
I am not sure why people get so defensive.

Last release is ~2 years ago.

I think slackware is indeed dying. How long are people expected to wait
for another release? +1 year? + 2 years? +10 years? Sorry but the OP
poster has a valid point. No clue why some get so emotional and personal
and insult him?

I am still using it here on my main machine but it's getting increasingly
annoying to want to setup properly with other changes.

I don't think the release cycle is improving, so it's mostly a downwards
trend from this point on.

> To the uninitiated, and even to some seasoned *nixers, Slackware and its manual
> dependency management can seem unappealing.

For me it was the opposite. I hated how rpm or dpkg work by default. Slackware
gave me the fewest problems.

In general linux is headed towards average joe, which means dumbing down a lot.

Slackware has been the original linux flavour. It is unfortunate that it has
slowed down immensely.
You could try VoidLinux, it is less cutting-edge distribution than slackware-current (Currently I work with both of them and I checked it). It is a very stable distro free of systemd.
 
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Old 04-26-2019, 09:53 AM   #137
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You could try VoidLinux, it is less cutting-edge distribution than slackware-current (Currently I work with both of them and I checked it). It is a very stable distro free of systemd.
I can't figure out the UEFI issue. I get through the whole install and followed what the wiki said but it will not boot. Otherwise, I think I want to run Void.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 06:20 AM   #138
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Yeah, I should look into that. Unless I upgrade my CafePress account to a paid premium I'm allowed to have one product design. At the time I used the flippy logo to avoid competing with my own store... wouldn't be an issue now.
If it's changeable to the old product design now without paid premium account, i'd be really happy to buy a t-shirt und baseballcap.
 
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Old 09-04-2019, 08:34 AM   #139
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to the OP's original question- so what? Who needs constant changes- and I play alot with -current and sid. Slackware is my constant though, 14.2.
I also have a 1972 Ford F100 with 390 engine, factory ac, trac-lok rear- it doesnt need any updates and can beat anything save much more expensive cars lol.
Not only "beat anything save much more expensive cars" but with that long stroke 390 absolutely crush 99% of vehicles at any price for pulling stumps
 
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Old 09-04-2019, 08:40 AM   #140
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More such threads and we will all die from boredom. I realized yesterday I spent hours on nothing - reading posts in that stupid thread about systemd - what a waste of time. Such threads they are like Heroes of Might and Magic. Siting playing game to finally realize you can't win cause game cheats.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 10:44 AM   #141
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If it's changeable to the old product design now without paid premium account, i'd be really happy to buy a t-shirt und baseballcap.
Ditto.... and a coffee mug!
 
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Old 09-04-2019, 04:39 PM   #142
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Slackware will not die as long as it does'nt get assimilated by SystemD

...let the chaos begin xD

https://imgur.com/andeZ7g

Last edited by trite; 09-04-2019 at 04:47 PM.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 05:01 PM   #143
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Ditto.... and a coffee mug!
Both, yes!

If that is an easy change then I would think it to be time well spent, Pat!
 
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:17 AM   #144
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Slackware will not die as long as it does'nt get assimilated by SystemD
Whether one attributes it to design or circumstance, Slackware has found a niche as a "traditional" UNIXlike linux distro with a simplistic packaging system. For as long as enough people value that proposition, and someone is willing to maintain it, it will continue. If it were to adopt 'systemd' then it would lose that niche. What would then be its raison d'Ítre?
 
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:29 AM   #145
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You know, people have been saying this since the turn of the century.

First article on "Is Slackware fading away?" from 2001...

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Whether one attributes it to design or circumstance, Slackware has found a niche as a "traditional" UNIXlike linux distro with a simplistic packaging system.
..and someone retorts with nearly exactly the same statement:

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Slackware occupies a niche - that of the most UN*X-like GNU/Linux, people who want that will continue to use Slack.
Nothing has changed.
 
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Old 09-05-2019, 05:26 AM   #146
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..and someone retorts with nearly exactly the same statement:
"most UNIXlike" is today, a far more significant differentiator than it was back in 2002. In fact, it's getting to the point where it's almost a binary distinction, and there are far fewer distro competing for that niche.

If you accept, "Slackware has found a niche as a "traditional" UNIXlike linux distro with a simplistic packaging system." as a truism, then the question I posed isn't an easy one to answer. If you don't, then the question no longer holds.

Personally, I do hold that as a truism, and I don't have a good answer for that question. YMMV.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 05:39 AM   #147
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Is Slackware dying? *Checks -current changelog, latest update "Wed Sep 4 21:13:39 UTC 2019"* Yes, Slackware is dying. /s /eyeroll
 
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:24 AM   #148
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Sure Slackware is dying. It's just not very good at it though.
 
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:09 AM   #149
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Sometimes I think the website just needs a little window on the side showing snippits of the changelog.. with a small paragraph saying it's for the development branch that will eventually be the next release.. it's like when you view something on git hub and see a recent commit.. you don't really question if it's dead or not.. maybe the same would help here.
 
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Old 09-06-2019, 01:35 AM   #150
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...maybe the same would help here.
Nice thought - something like what AlienBob has on his website where one can see the latest changelog entries for his own repos, for -current, and for SBo.
Whether it would help preventing this kind of threads is another issue. I'm afraid there will always be people out there starting threads ranting about PV not producing stable versions fast enough, not including the stuff that the ranters deem indispensable, and not excluding the stuff that they find obsolete and unnecessary.
 
  


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