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Old 02-13-2020, 01:42 AM   #16
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Akonadi in KDE4 connects to Facebook to sync with your Facebook invites, events etc... but only if you yourself configured your Facebook account in KDE in the first place.
So it's you who apparently wanted this to happen. Otherwise, do not connfigure any of your online accounts in KDE.

In KDE5 (aka Plasma5) the Facebook plugin is gone from Akonadi anyway.
 
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:10 AM   #17
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Anyway if I had an outgoing firewall this wouldn't be quite so worrisome, because then I'd block the sketchy stuff, but without that the idea that any of my personal data might be stolen and sent to FB or someone's cloud is alarming.
There are numerous ways to get a 2-way firewall working in any Linux distro, Slackware included, and Alien Bob provides a decent skeleton script for Slackware Users that don't choose to learn at least iptables --- http://www.slackware.com/~alien/efg/ ---.

BTW I wonder if you have a Facebook account? I don't but run with akonadai and I've not had any contact with Facebook because of it. Additionally unless I manually resolve it, all my wireshark/tripwire-like network diagnostic apps report numeric IPs, not nameservers so what do you use to get wind of a named "phone home" to Facebook?

Edit - Oops! I was 2nd place to the Alien

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Old 02-13-2020, 10:30 AM   #18
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Are there other lists that reside there?
There are many lists like that on the web. That list is mine. Here is one for Microsoft.
 
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Old 02-13-2020, 11:14 AM   #19
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Try this.
That file is truncated at the end.
 
Old 02-13-2020, 02:29 PM   #20
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That file is truncated at the end.
Should be fixed now. Thanks!
 
Old 02-13-2020, 03:27 PM   #21
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Interesting. So put in jail and look for evidence. Then we can talk. Or monitor all your network traffic to look for another such suspicious guy. Having high security may lead to very rough, simple system? I guess so. So why at all to use KDE if careful about security?
 
Old 02-13-2020, 04:38 PM   #22
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Since 2016 I use to remove all PIM suite ─ Personal Information Management ─ from all distros which installs it / enables it by default.

Back in 2016, when I used Kubuntu 16.04, after removing PIM suite, RAM usage at startup did fall from 800 MiB to less than 400 MiB. ─ Some time later, just 360 MiB, without "File search" (baloo_file) and other services. ─ Dolphin's search and advanced KFind don't need this indexation.

KDE Neon, which is released under KDE E.V., didn't install PIM suite by default, and used 370 MiB at startup.

Now, all distros use a few more RAM.

It was important to me, as my hardware had just 4 GB RAM back then.

I use to remove PIM suite, not because of "spyware" ─ I think there is no "spyware" in it. ─ I use to remove it, because I don't want to use any PIM service.

It is a great suite, and many people use it ─ but it's not for me.
 
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:44 PM   #23
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Here are the applications I don't want to use:
  • kmail
  • kaddresbook
  • kontact
  • korganizer
  • knotes
  • kjots
  • kalarm
  • akonadi-server
  • baloo-utils

Removing them is an easy way to remove almost all PIM suite.
 
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:59 PM   #24
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The only KDE app I use on my Slack is K3b. That's it.
 
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:59 PM   #25
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Or, one could removepkg akonadi and then delete the akonadi files in /usr/bin. If one is not going to use kmail or pim, kde will run just fine without akonadi.

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Old 02-13-2020, 06:28 PM   #26
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Akonadi is not spyware, but I truly fscking hate it. You do not need Akonadi to run KDE as I found out, and that has given me a reason to give KDE another chance. Just remove the akonadi package , and kde-pim packages - and you can literally shave a few hundred MB of ram. While Slackware is still using KDE4, I have seen mem usage around 300MB without akonadi; which is impressive and very close now to Gnome MATE actually.
 
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Old 02-13-2020, 06:45 PM   #27
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Thumbs up remove akonadi - it can go fsck itself.

308MB of ram usage in KDE4 - this is WITHOUT akonadi - I do not recall the amount when akonadi is in use - but I do remember seeing 4 to 5 processes of akonadi - unacceptable. Just remove akonadi and you'll be fine imo.
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Old 02-13-2020, 06:53 PM   #28
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308MB of ram usage in KDE4 - this is WITHOUT akonadi - I do not recall the amount when akonadi is in use - but I do remember seeing 4 to 5 processes of akonadi - unacceptable. Just remove akonadi and you'll be fine imo.
I cannot remember about KDE4, because I am using KDE5 for years now ─ including Slackware by AlienBOB.

In all distros which enable PIM by default, I have seen 17 Akonadi processes + 1 SQL process.

Back in 2016, there were 13 + 1.
 
Old 02-13-2020, 07:03 PM   #29
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I cannot remember about KDE4, because I am using KDE5 for years now ─ including Slackware by AlienBOB.

In all distros which enable PIM by default, I have seen 17 Akonadi processes + 1 SQL process.

Back in 2016, there were 13 + 1.
Still unacceptable - too many processes imo, and how much ram usage is there I wonder? My point stands - now that I know for a fact I do not need Akonadi to have a working KDE - I am willing to give KDE another go.
 
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Old 02-13-2020, 07:46 PM   #30
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I did do a search on the github repo that @bassmadrigal provided a link to, and the string "face" didn't match anything. So, I'm not sure what's going on, but I have a minor itch to find out.
That got me curious. It might be removed from KDE now, but it did exist at some point using the libkfbapi library. If you do a search of libkfbapi, it doesn't show anything in the current code, but it does show in the commit history of kdepim-runtime with some from back in 2013 and 2014, but they seem to have been removed at some point after that (2014 contains the removal of some of the libkfbapi code, but certainly not all that was added originally). So, I'm not sure if the removal coincided with Plasma5 or a different point.
 
  


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