Internet and Sound problems

Palamides · 02-21-2005, 01:26 AM

I installed the 2.6.10 kernel on my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop, and I am not able to get my internet to work. I tried running netconfig through pkgtool and I tried editing the rc.inet... file but it still won't work? I am on a broadband connection and i have a 3com modem incorporated into my laptop (the internet worked fine on the 2.4 kernel)

As well, I can't get my sound to work with the 2.6.10 kernel ( didn't work with the 2.4 kernel thats why I tried using the 2.6 kernel), it does't even detect it when I run alsaconf although with the 2.4 kernel it did detect it just didn't configure it properly.

Can anyone please help me out to fix these two issues?

satinet · 02-21-2005, 07:19 AM

what's the output of 'lspci' ??

It basically sounds like you don't have the correct kernel support for your sound & modem...

When you say 'modem' are you sure you don't mean NIC - i've never heard of a laptop with an actual broadband modem in - maybe a dial up, but not BB...

lspci please :-)

Palamides · 02-21-2005, 11:14 AM

sorry i forgot to specify its an ethernet card made by 3com, it works fine with the 2.4 kernel but not with the 2.6.10

heres my lspci output(with the 2.4 kernel, don't think it matters or does it?):

Code:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev04)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 42)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go] (rev a3)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78)
02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:01.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:01.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI4451 IEEE-1394 Controller

satinet · 02-21-2005, 01:48 PM

Reinstall alsa for a start, if you want your sound to work.

All I can say is that you need to make sure you enabled support for the 3com (tornado) card in the NIC section of the kernel config file.

Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
so this is your 'card'. Hmm. I 've never had much joy getting onboard sound to work in slack.
but again are you sure you used the proper module in the kernel?

Can I ask?

Does that touchpad work okay in slack on a laptop? I'm thinking of putting it on my dell d600 and want to be able to plug and unplug a mouse at my leisure.......

Any general comments / tips would be appreciated.....

What's the output of 'lsmod' please?

Also make sure you build the sound support as a module rather than 'in' the kernel.
Don't think it should matter for the NIC, but i would build that as a module as well....

;-)

Palamides · 02-21-2005, 02:14 PM

the touchpad does work with the 2.4 kernel but then the usb mouse doesnt, so its either one or the other(i tried using two different identifiers but that didnt work) but both do work properly with the 2.6.10 kernel

im gonna recompile the 2.6.10 kernel and make sure those options are enabled, so you think i should make the alsa driver as a module? b/c currently I have it set to be incorporated into the kernel...ill double check that I enabled support for the 3com card as well.
my lsmod output for the 2.6 kernel doesnt have much info b/c I compiled most of the drivers into the kernel, only ouput is the pcmia module and some other module which isn't really related.
thanks for the help so far

satinet · 02-21-2005, 03:55 PM

How did you configure xorg.conf to use the touch pad and a usb mouse, depending on wether the mouse is plugged in??

Yeah, compile the alsa stuff as modules.

but i belive you can get more info from the alsa homepage - i saw one guy talk about compiling alsa from their sources...

Palamides · 02-21-2005, 03:59 PM

i recompiled the kernel, found the 3com card driver which i seemed to ahve overlooked, and i changed the sound driver to be a module.
well the internet works perfectly now, the sound works as well but i had to modprobe -r snd-oss but once I restarted i didn't even have to modprobe -r again instead the sound was working... i guess it might have been conflicting with the alsa driver initially...however i cant play any mp3's with xmms it complains that (i can play mp3's w/ other programs though) :

Code:

libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory //on startup of xmms

** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (hw:0,0): Device or resource busy //when i try to play a file

i made sure to change the settings in preferences to the alsa driver...
and is it normal that whenever i open a window or program, kde plays a little sound?

as well i need to recompile my kernel anywyas, b/c i made the framebuffer fonts modules and now my console is blank, but should I not include the OSS sound drivers?

btw thanks for the help so far satinet

Palamides · 02-22-2005, 04:54 AM

anyone have any ideas whats wrong with xmms, and if i should leave the OSS modules when i recompile my kernel?

__J · 02-22-2005, 05:12 AM

with xmms, try to change the audio driver to arts ( the kde sound server) and see if that helps.

This is personal taste, but I like to compile the OSS modules and the alsa modules. The oss modules won't hurt anything by being there and you never know, you might need them sometime ( I have to use oss for certain task alsa gives me headaches with).

halo14 · 02-22-2005, 11:09 AM

sound like you're having a lot of trouble. That's strange. What version are you using?? i assume 10.1?

I am running it on my HP Pavilion notebook just fine. The touchpad works well except for the scroll bar. Few distros have ever gotten that right(I remember Ubuntu did), I've been looking for a how-to to get that working without much luck. I'm sure it's just some simple xorg.conf lines...

as for the sound.. have you turned everything up in 'alsamixer'?? don't 'alsactl store'?? made sure that, even though everything is turned up in alsa, that it's not muted??

Took me a while after the new install to get that.. i had everything cranked but no sound.. look at the bottom of the bar in 'alsamixer' and see if you show a 'mm' symbol or an infnity symbol. If it shows 'mm' hit the "m" key to un-mute it. do that for master, pcm, etc.. all of them actually...

As for the NIC, it should be working fine, since it's recognized. have you tried "ifconfig eth0 up" (i assume it is seen as 'eth0') and then 'dhcpcd eth0' ???

good luck. I'm still usign the 2.4.29 because I don't have a reason to upgrade. I might try it after a while.. but I'm workig fine with 2.4.29

satinet · 02-22-2005, 01:27 PM

Glad to help Palamides,

As i remember I had to install the OSS modules that are for OSS emulation or something. Sorry my memory is very vague on this! Getting sound cards to work does tend to send a shiver down my spine....

After you've run alsaconf and alsamixer run alsactl store to save the settings....

I'm afriad the xmms thing is out of my experience. The sound in KDE is probably just a setting that you can disabled.

By the way. I can't get ordinary users to have sound properly in KDE - e.g. when it boots up. Even adding them to the audio group doesn't seem to work.

any idead? not that it really matters, as music etc work, but i want to understand how it works and where to get it right next time!!

Palamides · 02-22-2005, 03:29 PM

i got xmms to work, for some reason it doesn't work with the alsa or oss driver so i followed J's suggestion and tried the arts driver and it works perfectly, thanks a lot everyone for your help, everything works now!
@ halo14, try Mandrake out, it configured everything for me right on the install for my laptop, although its a pretty boring distro but if you want everything to work right out of the box its a pretty good distro and desktop utility
@satinet i havent tried using the sound with different users, right now im just using my root account, hopefully the sound will work with other users...i really dont see why i wouldnt work with other users tho if the permissions are right...

satinet · 02-22-2005, 03:40 PM

Palamides

Yeah you would think that. with Gnome it's sound central, but non root users don't get sounds in KDE.

Maybe it's something to do with arts as mentioned above. Has anyone else had this prob.

I've got a dell d600 with an interl pro-wireless 2100. I have SuSE 9.1 personal on it at present, but am very underwhealmed by it. So I am pondering between ubuntu and slack 10.1. It's important to get the touchpad and wireless working, so i might try ubuntu....

halo14 · 02-22-2005, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Palamides
i got xmms to work, for some reason it doesn't work with the alsa or oss driver so i followed J's suggestion and tried the arts driver and it works perfectly, thanks a lot everyone for your help, everything works now!
@ halo14, try Mandrake out, it configured everything for me right on the install for my laptop, although its a pretty boring distro but if you want everything to work right out of the box its a pretty good distro and desktop utility
@satinet i havent tried using the sound with different users, right now im just using my root account, hopefully the sound will work with other users...i really dont see why i wouldnt work with other users tho if the permissions are right...

haha... no that's okay.. I tried Mandrake for about 2 days... I'm much more content with Slackware, it was my own fault for not figuring out the sound was muted by default... And I will continue to rely on myself(or the help of others), rather than a GUI config tool that doesn't work right half the time... thanks for the advise though.. and you're right, Mandrake did indeed half the correct sound right off the bat.. even the scrollbar on the synaptics touchpad worked...

aikempshall · 03-03-2005, 07:59 AM

On IBM T30 I've got the mouse and Trackpoint working together. I post a message as to what my X conf file looks like.

Upgraded from 10.0 to 10.1 yesterday. A few problems -

Following the instructions in UPGRADE.TXT my /usr/src/linux-2.4.26 directory got cleared including the .config file - lesson learnt in future just copy the old kernel directory to safety and for future reference. It's ok being smug knowing that a backup exists on tape but with hindsight it's a bit inconvenient if one wants just a quick look at the .config file.

/dev/hdi became /dev/hdf
/dev/hdk became /dev/hdg

kernel wasn't compiled with SATA presumably, altered fstab to reflect change!

partitions downgraded from ext3 to ext2 - again kernel hadn't been compiled with ext3 support

no /dev/eth0 - presumably need to compile the kernel for my NIC

no sound - nothing unusual always have to recompile ALSA everytime I do an upgrade to the kernel.

I intend to get my kernel .config file back from backup to determine what else I need to do. Can I use the 2.4.26 .config with 2.4.29?

Will post the X conf file in the next few days.

All the best.