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Old 01-28-2019, 05:44 AM   #1
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Intel recommended X driver


On slackware64 here with an Ivy Bridge HD4000, using Xorg and XFCE:

I'm doing fine on the xf86-video-intel driver in 2D. I don't have much response from 3D - google Earth (when last installed) pointedly disables 3D, saying my GPU was 'beneath contempt.' I gather there's some mode setting driver, which many distros have gone over to, but which seems to be buggy, and for later GPUs, although mine may be covered. I know it at least goes back to the 'Haswell' which if I'm right is the next generation after mine, HD4500. Slackware doesn't seem to package this.

Going to the Intel site is a pure disaster for me because not having fedora or debian, I get bounced to some Atom driver and then back to windoze drivers in a kind of 'snakes & ladders' on the intel site.

What's the best GPU driver for my Ivy Bridge ATM?
 
Old 01-28-2019, 09:55 PM   #2
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Could you provide more information and more detailed info about the specs of the computer, particularly the RAM and video RAM?

I did find a review of Intel HD 4000 Ivy Bridge graphics: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...vybridge&num=1

The review dates from 2012, which, in computer years, is a long time ago.
 
Old 01-28-2019, 11:17 PM   #3
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So, today an Intel Core i7 is some kind of ancient technology?
 
Old 01-28-2019, 11:24 PM   #4
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:41 PM   #5
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Are you on 14.2 or current?

On current, since it currently has xorg-server 1.20.x which is new enough for this to be the case, "modesetting" is defaulted to in the absence of an xorg.conf. It's part of the xorg-server package. I think it may talk to the intel driver as well though. I'm not sure! I'm a bit confused by it myself.

You might try it. I don't think it made much of a difference on my machines. On one of them I went back to 'intel' because 'modesetting' wasn't working great.
 
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:05 AM   #6
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@frankbell: Yes, it's a Samsung NP350C (Not the NP350VC you find in google today). It's a laptop with a 17.3" 1600x900 screen, vintage 2013
Hardware: i3 twin core @ 2.4GHz, (35W), 6G ram, 250G ssd (oroginally 600G), Panther Point chipset, 1Gb Realtek 8169 nic, Atheros AR9485 wifi, & bluetooth-4.0 (forget the chip. That sucks too, btw).
Graphics: HD4000 Ivy Bridge w/512(?) MB ram.
This was bought 2013, at a time when UEFI was new in linux, and the Ivy Bridge was emerging. I had difficulty avoiding Sandy Bridge (HD2500).

@ZhaoLin1457: I didn't say that - i3 is old tech and 35W i7s suck also. But all i7s are not the same.

@Poprocks: Thanks, Yes, I'm on current, with xorg-server-1.20.x. But although I don't have xorg.conf, I have xorg.conf.d/20-video.conf, and IIRC THAT specifies the intel driver. That was needed for a gig in 2015, sets up hdmi nicely, but is largely historical. It's now gone, along with the intel driver. I take your point that it's trying to 'make a silk purse out of a sow's ear,' but I'll give it 5 minutes in case it improves 3D. It seems ok. Now to watch a few high-speed dash-cam crashes or suchlike that change scene quickly :-D. If I don't like it, I can put the intel driver & conf file back.

I added another option I read about, when I gathered that intel was 2D only by default
Code:
Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "intel"
    BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
    Option      "AccelMethod"   "glamor"
    Option      "DRI"  "3"
EndSection
That may be of use to guys staying with intel.
 
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:14 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by business_kid View Post
On slackware64 here with an Ivy Bridge HD4000, using Xorg and XFCE:

I'm doing fine on the xf86-video-intel driver in 2D. I don't have much response from 3D - google Earth (when last installed) pointedly disables 3D, saying my GPU was 'beneath contempt.' I gather there's some mode setting driver, which many distros have gone over to, but which seems to be buggy, and for later GPUs, although mine may be covered. I know it at least goes back to the 'Haswell' which if I'm right is the next generation after mine, HD4500. Slackware doesn't seem to package this.
I have a Sandybridge desktop (and so older than yours) with HD graphics (second generation rev 9) and a Haswell laptop (and so newer than yours) with HD graphics (fourth generation rev 6) and both work fine with google earth in 3D using google chrome. However I am using slackware64-current. So if you are using slackware[64]-14.2 you probably need to upgrade your xorg-server and more particularly mesa.

Last edited by chrisVV; 01-29-2019 at 06:43 AM. Reason: correct hd graphics versions
 
Old 01-29-2019, 08:11 AM   #8
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I added another option I read about, when I gathered that intel was 2D only by default
Code:
Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "intel"
    BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
    Option      "AccelMethod"   "glamor"
    Option      "DRI"  "3"
EndSection
That may be of use to guys staying with intel.
I have to specify the driver as the modesetting driver, not the intel driver, to get it to use glamor instead of sna. However, both glamor and sna work fine with google earth for me.

Edit: for anyone using PRIME, I should mention that I also have to use modesetting/glamor and not intel/sna in order to get it to play properly with nouveau (recent versions of the nouveau driver and/or kernel DRM - I think for about the last 3 months - crash for me randomly with PRIME dri enabled and intel enabled for sna).

Last edited by chrisVV; 01-29-2019 at 08:25 AM. Reason: Add comment about PRIME
 
Old 01-29-2019, 08:45 AM   #9
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The xf86-video-intel driver has been on life support since four years ago, when its last official upstream release was made. The work Intel pays its DDX driver writers to do goes primarily into the hardware independent modesetting driver that was migrated from xf86-video-modesetting into the server package in version 1.17.0. Intel gfx newer than Gen3 (about 12-13 years old; ~965G & newer; post-G31) and not too new for any support are supported by modesetting, and automagically used when xf86-video-intel is not installed. 20-video.conf is an option available to dictate modesetting be used while xf86-video-intel is kept installed.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 09:29 AM   #10
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So, this HD 4000 is doing OK on modesetting. Yes, modesetting doesn't like being told what to do. I found that out .

Thanks to all who contributed. This is a very useful thread as a knowledge pool on which Intel driver sucks less on which GPU. xf86-video-intel is still there, but so are drivers for the S3, & S3 Virge, which were early 90s(?)

BTW, my testing uncovered a useful health warning about the perils of Russian Roads. There's some real destruction caught on dashcams. Speeding in situations where only a lunatic would, turning out where only the foolhardy would seem to be the main offenses, although failing to control manageable instability comkes a close third. Apologies to any Russians offended by this, but some very remarkable (if you call it that) footage is on youtube from Russian dashcams.

EDIT: Apparently changing driver has mucked about with screen timeout or suspend. I ended up with fans going, no screen, no backlight after an absence of 30 minutes. I tried Alt_F2, followed by 'sudo pm-suspend.' I ended up in no man's land, restarting & re-suspending. I eventually got a power-down, and restarted from there. I'll post again if it's troubling.

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