[SOLVED] Intel 82845G

cccc · 05-24-2011, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkerdi

I finally borrowed a machine with the notorious 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device. At first I ran into all kinds of problems with it, and was almost ready to consider it hopeless when I went into the BIOS settings and found that the default video memory setting was only 1MB. I changed it to 8MB (the maximum the board in this Dell Dimension machine would allow), and after that it was up and running nice and stable (Slackware 13.37, 2.6.37.6-smp).

Something to try if you haven't already...

Really bad news, I've changed in the BIOS by video memory from 1MB to 8MB, but it doesn't help for Debian Squeeze.
It hangs again, worst than before.

Mol_Bolom · 05-24-2011, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkerdi

I finally borrowed a machine with the notorious 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device. At first I ran into all kinds of problems with it, and was almost ready to consider it hopeless when I went into the BIOS settings and found that the default video memory setting was only 1MB. I changed it to 8MB (the maximum the board in this Dell Dimension machine would allow), and after that it was up and running nice and stable (Slackware 13.37, 2.6.37.6-smp).

Something to try if you haven't already...

Could you post the output of lspci. Perhaps that system has a different revision (if that's the correct term) of that chipset. CW, a year ago, had said that he didn't have the same problems with 03 that machines with the 01 chipset were having (link). A long shot, but might be useful.

cccc · 05-25-2011, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mol_Bolom

Could you post the output of lspci. Perhaps that system has a different revision (if that's the correct term) of that chipset. CW, a year ago, had said that he didn't have the same problems with 03 that machines with the 01 chipset were having (link). A long shot, but might be useful.

I have DELL Desktop Optiplex GX260 with onboard 82845G.
My lspci:

Code:

# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 01)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)

volkerdi · 05-26-2011, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mol_Bolom

Could you post the output of lspci. Perhaps that system has a different revision (if that's the correct term) of that chipset. CW, a year ago, had said that he didn't have the same problems with 03 that machines with the 01 chipset were having (link). A long shot, but might be useful.

Sure. Here we go:

Code:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 01)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
01:05.0 Modem: Intel Corporation FA82537EP 56K V.92 Data/Fax Modem PCI (rev 04)

Currently 6+ days of uptime running KDE.

Mol_Bolom · 05-26-2011, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkerdi

I finally borrowed a machine with the notorious 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device. At first I ran into all kinds of problems with it, and was almost ready to consider it hopeless when I went into the BIOS settings and found that the default video memory setting was only 1MB. I changed it to 8MB (the maximum the board in this Dell Dimension machine would allow), and after that it was up and running nice and stable (Slackware 13.37, 2.6.37.6-smp).

Something to try if you haven't already...

Anyone else able to test this for Slackware 13.37? (Unfortunately, I had replaced my old Compaq's d510 mobo so I'm unable to do so.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkerdi

Code:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)

Currently 6+ days of uptime running KDE.

This is what I needed, and what I've been looking for. Thanks a lot,

.

volkerdi · 05-26-2011, 03:52 PM

Critical information nearly omitted!

Code:

root@dellp4:~# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/disable-composite.conf 
Section "Extensions"
  Option "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection
root@dellp4:~#

I did that before figuring out to bump the video memory in BIOS to 8MB (the maximum). I have not tried disabling it, but I'm guessing you might need this.

volkerdi · 05-26-2011, 04:38 PM

And more... evidently some of the packages I'm using there are from 13.37 /testing, e.g.:

Code:

libdrm-2.4.25-i486-1
mesa-7.10.2-i486-1
xf86-video-intel-2.15.0-i486-1

Again, not sure it matters, but in the interest of providing all the facts. The breakthrough here was discovering the video memory setting in the BIOS.

Good luck!

cccc · 05-30-2011, 10:52 AM

Now this problem seems to be really solved!

I've changed in /etc/apt/sources.list to wheezy and installed these wheezy packages:

Code:

# apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel libdrm-intel1 xorg

on my squeeze.

I have after changes, this problem is fixed already:

Code:

# uname -a
Linux squeeze 2.6.32-5-486 #1 Wed May 18 06:47:47 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux

# dpkg -l | grep libdrm
ii  libdrm-intel1                        2.4.25-2                          Userspace interface to intel-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
rc  libdrm-nouveau1                      2.4.21-1~squeeze3                 Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  libdrm-nouveau1a                     2.4.25-2                          Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  libdrm-radeon1                       2.4.23-0.0                        Userspace interface to radeon-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  libdrm2                              2.4.23-0.0                        Userspace interface to kernel DRM services -- runtime

# dpkg -l | grep intel
ii  libdrm-intel1                        2.4.25-2                          Userspace interface to intel-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  whois                                5.0.10                            an intelligent whois client
ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel             2:2.15.0-3                        X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver

# dpkg -l | grep xorg
ii  xorg                                 1:7.5+8                           X.Org X Window System
ii  xorg-docs-core                       1:1.5-1                           Core documentation for the X.org X Window System
ii  xserver-xorg                         1:7.5+8                           the X.Org X server
ii  xserver-xorg-core                    2:1.10.1-2                        Xorg X server - core server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-all               1:7.5+8                           the X.Org X server -- input driver metapackage
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev             1:2.6.0-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dev         1:2.6.0-2                         X.Org X server -- evdev input driver (development headers)
ii  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics         1.4.0-1+b1                        Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-wacom             0.10.10+20110203-1+b1             X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-all               1:7.6+6                           the X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage
ii  xserver-xorg-video-apm               1:1.2.3-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- APM display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-ark               1:0.7.3-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- ark display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-ati               1:6.14.1-1+b1                     X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper
ii  xserver-xorg-video-chips             1:1.2.4-1+b1                      X.Org X server -- Chips display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus            1:1.3.2-4+b1                      X.Org X server -- Cirrus display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev             1:0.4.2-4+b1                      X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-geode             2.11.12-1+b1                      X.Org X server -- Geode GX2/LX display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-i128              1:1.3.4-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- i128 display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-i740              1:1.3.2-4+b1                      X.Org X server -- i740 display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel             2:2.15.0-3                        X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-mach64            6.9.0-1                           X.Org X server -- ATI Mach64 display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-mga               1:1.4.13.dfsg-3+b1                X.Org X server -- MGA display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-neomagic          1:1.2.5-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- Neomagic display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau           1:0.0.16+git20110411+8378443-1+b1 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver (experimental)
ii  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome        1:0.2.904+svn920-1                X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-r128              6.8.1-5+b1                        X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-radeon            1:6.14.1-1+b1                     X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-rendition         1:4.2.4-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- Rendition display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-s3                1:0.6.3-4+b1                      X.Org X server -- legacy S3 display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-s3virge           1:1.10.4-4+b1                     X.Org X server -- S3 ViRGE display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-savage            1:2.3.2-3+b1                      X.Org X server -- Savage display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion     1:1.7.5-1+b1                      X.Org X server -- SiliconMotion display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-sis               1:0.10.3-3+b1                     X.Org X server -- SiS display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-sisusb            1:0.9.4-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- SiS USB display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx              1:1.4.3-4+b1                      X.Org X server -- tdfx display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-trident           1:1.3.4-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- Trident display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-tseng             1:1.2.4-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- Tseng display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-vesa              1:2.3.0-5+b1                      X.Org X server -- VESA display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-vmware            1:11.0.3-2+b1                     X.Org X server -- VMware display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-voodoo            1:1.2.4-2+b1                      X.Org X server -- Voodoo display driver

Mol_Bolom · 05-30-2011, 08:13 PM

Thanks to the both of you. I'll wait a few more days for more replies then I'll go ahead and mark this as solved.

cccc · 06-07-2011, 06:57 PM

Yep, this problem is really solved and you can mark this thread as solved!

cccc · 06-09-2011, 06:25 PM

Another possible solution for the 82845G video driver problem:

1.) put the following in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in Section "Device":

Code:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "intel"
Option "Shadow" "true"
Option "DRI" "false"
BoardName "Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Run "lspci | grep VGA" to find out the "BusID" and the "BoardName", for example:

Code:

# lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)

Mol_Bolom · 06-09-2011, 09:48 PM

@cccc
Thanks for the additional info.

P.S. I've been adding these threads to the first post for a quick access. Could you edit your 38th or 41st post and add in which Kernel, libdrm, intel, xorg, and mesa versions you have on your system? (It might be useful for other distro users).

Ignotum Per Ignotius · 06-13-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mol_Bolom

I'll wait a few more days for more replies then I'll go ahead and mark this as solved.

...Apologies for the late post, but I've only now come across this. After upgrading yesterday from 12.2 to 13.37 I found that X was exceedingly flaky on my Rev 01 82845G/GL. I tried various things (including swapping leet for 13.1) to no avail, and then today I ran across this thread.

...So I did a fresh install of leet without making any changes to the default setup, and simply tried Pat's suggestions --- i.e. I upped the AGP aperture (or whatever it is) in the BIOS to 64M, I pasted the "Composite disable" stuff into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/disable-composite.conf, and upgraded to the releases of mesa & libdrm in /testing (as far as I can tell, xf86-video-intel-2.15.0-i486-1 is already installed by default on 13.37, so I didn't upgrade that). I also tried both non-SMP and SMP kernels (the modular versions, not the monolithic ones).

It did make a difference (I can actually run & use X now), BUT... X will still throw a wobbly after a while (the screen suddenly goes black for a second then the desktop returns, but is corrupted, with windows not being redrawn/cleared properly): at this point, errors are spewed out on the console...

Code:

(EE) intel(0): failed to set cursor: Input/output error

(Should anyone want to see my /var/log/Xorg.0.log --- or anything else for that matter --- I'll happily post it.)

...I'm sorry to spoil things after you'd marked this as solved, but I was sure you'd want to know if someone had tried the procedure yet still experienced some instability!

Thanks anyway, @Mol_Bolom, for a helpful thread!

..And if Pat's still reading this, thanks for the tips --- my problems notwithstanding, I'm typing this from 1337 (something I was resigning myself never to be able to do on my machine), and X has been stable the best part of an hour...

<EDIT> I've just switched to the console from which X was run, and it's filled with the error above --- even though KDE appears to be fine...

Ignotum Per Ignotius · 06-14-2011, 07:12 PM

Further to my previous post, I have been experimenting, and I have what I hope is the definitive answer on this one...

All the suggestions above have helped, but on my machine --- as I mentioned before --- they only really ameliorated things and didn't fix the instability completely.

I investigated the Xorg logs further and found the I/O error was always associated with a hung GPU. I had a look around to find out anything useful on GPUs and cobbled together the following recipe (none of which, I hasten to add, is my own original work --- I am merely a snapper-up of unconsidered trifles...).

(This is starting from a clean standard Slackware 13.37 installation.)

Pat reported that he had success with the SMP kernel and with /testing versions of mesa & libdrm. I found that the above works with the generic (non-SMP) kernel and without the upgrades of mesa & libdrm. (I can confirm that it also works with these upgrades, too.) I haven't done exhaustive testing, trying out which others of the above list can be omitted/altered, but simply made a note of exactly what worked for me!

I have tried this on more than one machine --- both of my boxen (a Research Machines with a D845GVSR mainboard and a Dell Optiplex GX260) have the same onboard graphics:

Code:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)

So, to give the TLDR version... Should anyone have the card above, go into your machine's BIOS and increase the amount of memory allotted to the graphics card then, when Linux has booted, create these files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/i845G.conf

Code:

Section "Device"
    Identifier 	"Card0"
    Driver 	"intel"
    Option 	"Shadow" 	"true"
    Option 	"DRI"   	"false"
    BoardName 	"Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)"
    BusID 	"PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/disable-composite.conf

Code:

Section "Extensions"
    Option 	"Composite" 	"Disable"
EndSection

X should now give you no more grief. (I have not had a single "hung GPU"/"I/O error" --- thank Heaven --- since doing this: the only Xorg error remaining is the one where an attempt is made to add the mouse twice via /dev/input/event3 & /dev/input/mouse0, which appears trivial and causes no problems).

Anyway, I hope someone out there has found my summary of some help...

Golly I'm tired.

<UPDATE> Eliminated remaining trivial errors by preventing /dev/input/mouse0 from being loaded: see comment by Dan Nicholson here.

cccc · 06-15-2011, 11:14 AM

It's quite interesting, I'm still getting these errors on my squeeze:

Code:

Jun 15 17:28:48 squeeze kernel: [   49.124005] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung
Jun 15 17:28:48 squeeze kernel: [   49.124017] render error detected, EIR: 0x00000000
Jun 15 17:28:48 squeeze kernel: [   49.124838] [drm:i915_do_wait_request] *ERROR* i915_do_wait_request returns -5 (awaiting 727 at 649)

but the computer doesn't freeze anymore.