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Old 02-14-2019, 08:46 AM   #46
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I have a "peppy" chromebook (two in fact) and I used the Chrome OS for some months, but after purging it I never looked back. For the BIOS, read the instructions on MrChromebox.tech carefully, and I recommend doing what he recommends. If in doubt, do the (UEFI) Full ROM flash. On my device I had to open it and remove the write protect screw in order to flash.
 
Old 02-14-2019, 08:50 AM   #47
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Are you saying it's possible to just wipe the ChromeOS partition[s] in fdisk?
Not sure since I've never done it, but possibly. Or with gParted, or the partition tool that's part of Slackware's install tool.

I remember vaguely that my eee900 (bought in 2008) had a similar setup, with 4GB allocated to a proprietary Linux distro (Xandros) and the rest free to use. My memory is a bit rusty, but as I recall it was a simple matter of wiping both partitions and create new (root, swap, home). If you have a live usb handy you could run gParted and see how it looks.
 
Old 02-14-2019, 09:33 AM   #48
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I have a "peppy" chromebook (two in fact) and I used the Chrome OS for some months, but after purging it I never looked back. For the BIOS, read the instructions on MrChromebox.tech carefully, and I recommend doing what he recommends. If in doubt, do the (UEFI) Full ROM flash. On my device I had to open it and remove the write protect screw in order to flash.
Great, thanks. I was going to go for the Install/Update the RW_LEGACY Firmware option since one doesn't need to open the machine for this, but the Full ROM flash is preferable, however, I do need to open it up for that, as noted. Was it difficult? Can you confirm if you need to do this afterwards re this post:

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First, Remove all the screws from the back cover and remove it. It's easiest to remove if you pull up from where the HINGES are (as I found out). Next, remove ALL of the screws from the big metal motherboard cover, and you'll see the exposed processor, and more importantly, the WRITE PROTECT JUMPER! It's indicated in the picture. You MUST remove the silver metallic sticker here, your fingernail is enough. To prevent the metallic cover from bridging the connection when you put it back on, COVER UP where you scraped the sticker off with a piece of plastic, I found that the plastic notice on the bottom of the computer that says "CAUTION PC BASE CAN BECOME HOT" works pretty well.
REASSEMBLE your computer, get into a shell by pressing ctrl-alt- ->(forward) at the login screen, and this is the code you enter:
login as user "chronos"
sudo su
flashrom --wp-disable
If the last line of the return is SUCCESS , you did it right!
https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/co...ba_chromebook/

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Not sure since I've never done it, but possibly. Or with gParted, or the partition tool that's part of Slackware's install tool.

I remember vaguely that my eee900 (bought in 2008) had a similar setup, with 4GB allocated to a proprietary Linux distro (Xandros) and the rest free to use. My memory is a bit rusty, but as I recall it was a simple matter of wiping both partitions and create new (root, swap, home). If you have a live usb handy you could run gParted and see how it looks.
I would love it to be that easy, but the consensus is that it's not. However, it may be if I open the machine and remove the write-protect seal.
 
Old 02-15-2019, 05:23 PM   #49
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An update for tonight - things went well so far, though not quite as expected.

I followed the instructions for installing Mint on Fascinating Captain's website and installing the legacy firmware via Mr Chromebox's script. All went without a hitch until I tried to install Slack.

Booting from USB was no problem at all, but partitioning was not straightforward. Neither fdisk nor cfdisk could make head nor tail of what was going on with the partitions, so in the end I opted for the GUI route and loaded up an Ubuntu USB since I downloaded an .iso as a backup in case I ran into unforeseen problems.

The Ubuntu install was, as predicted, easy, but viewing the partition table in a GUI showed me the clusterf*** that ChromeOS really is. There were around eight partitions of varying sizes, so many that the table went off the edge of the window. I just deleted everything, set the 16GB drive as root and used my 64GB SD card for /home.

So now I have Ubuntu installed remedially on this machine. Now that the partitions and SD card are all formatted properly I plan to get Slackware on here very soon. But things are a lot clearer now and though Ubuntu isn't what I wanted to go straight to, it's a damn sight better than ChromeOS.

Screenshot of current situation attached. Not sure what those /dev/loops are though that's a minor niggle at this point. There's no sound but that's a known issue with converted Chomebooks. It'll take some time to sort that out.
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:27 PM   #50
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Screenshot of current situation attached. Not sure what those /dev/loops are but that's a minor niggle at this point. There's no sound but that's a known issue with converted Chomebooks. It'll take some time to sort that out.
openSUSE partitions are almost as bad as Chromebook. I think those /dev/loops are how snaps are setup on *buntu.
 
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Old 02-16-2019, 05:38 AM   #51
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I tried a Slackware install, the installation completed, but on rebooting I was told that normal.mod could not be found through grub rescue.

I found it inside /usr/lib64/grub/i386-pc, but after using

Code:
set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/usr/lib64/grub
and then

Code:
insmod normal
I got a new error saying:

Code:
error: symbol 'grub_isprint' not found
I'm kind of stuck what to do now to get things to work. Will have to read around more.

I should mention that I installed with the SD drive in and set it to /home. I'm wondering if I should reinstall with it removed.

This is the most useful page I'm come across regarding the issue

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...2/+bug/1289017

Additionally, the problem could be the partition type seeing as I didn't use GPT.

One other point of note which is incredible useful - getting the sound to work on this thing. It's a well-known issue with converted Chromebooks and after a while of searching, here is what worked for me:

https://erdnaxe.github.io/chromebook-linux/

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Old 02-19-2019, 03:10 PM   #52
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A minor update here - things with Ubuntu are going relatively well [apart from the forced updates, ugh] as documented in the other thread.

I'm running Slackware live off USB at the moment which works pretty much flawlessly apart from the touchpad. I've downloaded the 3.4GB iso. Is there a way to install it without going through 14.2 first [14.2, at least it its unupdated state, does not have the right drivers for the screen]? I'd like to use the Xfce version but one can't install from the Xfce version apparently.

Weirdly enough, KDE4 is surprisingly fast on this machine though. Way more than I expected.

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Old 02-19-2019, 03:24 PM   #53
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AlienBob's iso files should give you -current, not 14.2.
 
Old 02-19-2019, 03:40 PM   #54
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AlienBob's iso files should give you -current, not 14.2.
Eric has an iso for -current Xfce, but one cannot install from that iso. I need to find a way to install -current Xfce through an iso since I can't do it through 14.2.
 
Old 02-19-2019, 03:59 PM   #55
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It looks like I will be inheriting a TOSHIBA CB30-B-104 laptop. It's a very nice-looking machine, but it's a Chromebook, which means that installing a Linux OS is going to be a bit more fiddly than another type of laptop.

I've read around a bit and there are two things that strike me:

1. The firmware needs to be updated to enable legacy mode and
2. This thing has a staggering 16GB - yes, 16GB - of storage. Apparently this is to 'encourage' [force] people to use the cloud.

Now, updating the firmware is not as tricky as it used to be. A chap called Mr Chromebox has developed a script which means that the firmware can be updated for Baytrail chips without opening the machine. So that will hopefully be straightforward. After doing so hopefully it will be a matter of just rebooting into the Slackware iso [actually, reading up on things, it looks like it may be necessary to open the machine up in order to set the correct boot options for legacy as default].

The second issue is the storage. Seeing as this machine only has 16GB storage, I am thinking I may not do a full install. I would like a DE [probably Xfce] but am not that au fait with selecting software sets. I'm thinking of A, D, F, K, L, N and X. Hopefully this will give me a slightly stripped down install. However, I am probably wrong about this. I intend to use the thing for browsing, writing and music listening mostly.

This will be an interesting project and one to go slowly with so I can get a nice -current install on it and learn more about Slackware.
A full install is indeed not a good idea. Even leaving out only kde and kdei will not be enough. Then that CPU is slow, so building from sbo will be a time consuming affair, plus when you will really slim down the base install, you might have a lot of figuring out missing dependencies during compiling with sbo scripts. If that laptop is meant for tinkering, just go for it.

But if you want to use the laptop for doing tasks, instead of tinkering with it, and want to stick to slackware, you would be better of with salix. Their repository is quite filled. But if I owned a laptop with such specs, I would probably go for fatdog 8.00 , which you can run of a usb stick, or install on that 16gb drive, where it will only take less then 1 GB, even including dev environments as c, c++, python2 and 3 etc etc., and it has a lot of software installed, like firefox, geany, openoffice, etcetc. You can give it a try, since it can be used as a live environment. Fatdog 8.00RC
 
Old 02-19-2019, 04:03 PM   #56
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Eric has an iso for -current Xfce, but one cannot install from that iso. I need to find a way to install -current Xfce through an iso since I can't do it through 14.2.
You can install from that ISO, if you follow the Darth Vader's tutorial which is somewhere in this forum. If I remember right, the installed size is around 2,7GB and it increase to 3,5GB after you update the packages, because Mr. Hameleers remove some files from packages to make the ISO smaller.

However, now Darth is no longer with us on this forum, and Mr. Hameleers swears that this kind of installation is not supported by him at all.

To add an insult to injury, looks like in this forum they refuse actively to offer support to partial installations. And many consider them insulting, just like you can't go to a church and to start saying that you believe only parts from Bible.

Then you are in your own way, with no support at all.

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Old 02-19-2019, 04:25 PM   #57
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Not 100% sure, but I believe the 3.4 GB iso will give you xfce (since it's part of slackware) and an installer. IIRC it's only the small xfce iso that lacks installer. Or you could try the MATE iso, switch to xfce after install and delete the MATE stuff.
 
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:10 PM   #58
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However, now Darth is no longer with us on this forum, and Mr. Hameleers swears that this kind of installation is not supported by him at all.
That's correct, he doesn't offer support for an unsupported installation of software that was only intended to be run in a live method.

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To add an insult to injury, looks like in this forum they refuse actively to offer support to partial installations. And many consider them insulting, just like you can't go to a church and to start saying that you believe only parts from Bible.

Then you are in your own way, with no support at all.
As you can obviously see from this thread, people aren't against supporting partial installations. The problem is when people want partial installations under the incorrect assumption that installing less will require Slackware to use less resources (other than hard drive space). In reality, Slackware only runs what you tell it to run, so if you tell it to run KDE, it will use all the resources that KDE requires. If you choose to not run KDE or KDE-related apps, KDE won't run and won't use any RAM or CPU cycles. Too many people want to slim down Slackware to help it run faster, which slimming down has nothing to do with that... it's all based on what they run.

When there's legitimate needs, whether that be a lack of space on machines like the one in this topic or a desire to learn how Slackware can function with less than a full install, there's many users that will come to the aid of the poster.

But on a distro that doesn't include dependency resolution, users attempting to install a less-than-full install of Slackware should be semi-familiar with how to determine when they might be missing a dependency and how to find out what that dependency is. Nothing is more frustrating than when someone installs a partial Slackware, informs us something is broken, and then doesn't bother to tell us they're running a partial installation. We're still willing to help, but there might be some suggestions that this isn't the best route for that user to go if they can't determine why it is broken and what to do about it. That being said, I don't think I've ever seen a thread where everyone states that a partial installation isn't supported and then ignore the user. They will explain why a full install is recommended, but then still will help the user by suggesting the user to install the missing dependencies if it's obvious from their post.
 
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:20 PM   #59
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You can install from a live slackware iso and I can help you in that area lysander666
 
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You can install from a live slackware iso and I can help you in that area lysander666
OK, it seems you might be right. Your help would be very much appreciated, linus72. I missed this from here:

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setup2hd

The fourth script:

The “setup2hd” script enables you to install the running Live OS to the computer's local hard disk. The “setup2hd” is a modified Slackware installer, so you will be comfortable with the process. There is no 'SOURCE' selection because the script knows where to find the squashfs modules. After you select the target partition(s), every active module of the Live OS variant (SLACKWARE, PLASMA5, MATE, …) is extracted to the hard drive. After extraction has completed, the script summarizes how many modules have been extracted. It will also show an example command to extract any remaining inactive or disabled modules manually. The final step in the installation is again the stock Slackware installer which kicks off the Slackware configuration scripts.
So I presume this would include Xfce.

To run this script I imagine I should just run setup2hd from the terminal and go from there. The only slight shame about this is the fact that I don't want KDE on there. Hopefully I can remove it after.

Secondly, I note that I should do this without my SD card [which will be used for storage] left in. When I managed to make it through a 14.2 install before [which miraculously happened without the screen going blank though such fortune has never befitted me since] on reboot I just got an error from GRUB. In my experience trying to set up over multiple drives is best done post-install through persistent naming, not during install.

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