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Old 02-10-2019, 02:39 PM   #16
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Just installed 14.2 on my testing thinkpad (which I was going to do anyway) so for lutz I used 1Gb swap and 14Gb root as set using cfdisk prior to running setup from the 64 bit DVD.

I installed A, D, K, L, N, X and XFCE initially and set up my user &c but then found that nmtui was asking for sqlite (in AP) and so just installed all the packages in AP as I reasoned there would be other packages depending on stuff in there and it is about 150Mb or so. I also added Firefox and GIMP and audacious/audacious-plugins from XAP. Currently no suspend on lid close I imagine as a consequence of not installing pm-utils from XAP.

Results...

Code:
root@slim:/run/media/keith/SlackDVD/slackware64/xap# fdisk -l | grep sda
Disk /dev/sda: 298.1 GiB, 320072933376 bytes, 625142448 sectors
/dev/sda1          2048  2099199  2097152   1G 82 Linux swap
/dev/sda2       2099200 31459327 29360128  14G 83 Linux
root@slim:/run/media/keith/SlackDVD/slackware64/xap# df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/root        14G  5.8G  7.3G  45% /
devtmpfs        3.9G     0  3.9G   0% /dev
tmpfs           3.9G  1.1M  3.9G   1% /run
tmpfs           3.9G  964K  3.9G   1% /dev/shm
cgroup_root     3.9G     0  3.9G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sr0        4.4G  4.4G     0 100% /run/media/keith/SlackDVD
...next to see what a slackpkg update brings, then install OpenOffice from the RPM binaries.

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Old 02-10-2019, 02:49 PM   #17
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Sounds very interesting, Keith. Great work. Also, restrospectively you may find this interesting.

So out of all that you ended up with just under 6GB? That's great. This is looking very encouraging. Do post back when you've got Libre/Open Office installed.

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Old 02-10-2019, 04:03 PM   #18
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So out of all that you ended up with just under 6GB? That's great. This is looking very encouraging. Do post back when you've got Libre/Open Office installed.
Code:
bash-4.3$ df -m
Filesystem     1M-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root          13984  6501      6750  50% /
devtmpfs            3925     0      3925   0% /dev
tmpfs               3927     1      3926   1% /run
tmpfs               3927     1      3927   1% /dev/shm
cgroup_root         3927     0      3927   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
cgmfs                  1     0         1   0% /run/cgmanager/fs
After upgrade, reboot and installing OpenOffice from the binary put out at openoffice.org and deleting the installer files afterwards (rpms + tgz add up to 300Mb). So a basic but use-able desktop with Firefox, mp3 player, picture editor and office package including vector drawing is coming in at 6.5Gb. This includes the compilers so I was able to compile the wiskermenu for xfce4.
 
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:19 PM   #19
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Lysander, sounds like a fun project...I would throw Salix on there, you can even install the "core or basic" versions and build up from there. Although, Salix full install is quite small as well. 16GB is more than enough, and they have quite a few packages in the repos so building from SBo would be minimal if any.
http://guide.salixos.org/103InstallationModes.html
https://salixos.org/download.html

PS: regarding minimums...http://guide.salixos.org/221Beforestarting.html
https://docs.salixos.org/wiki/How_mu...oes_Salix_need

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Old 02-10-2019, 04:59 PM   #20
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I would throw Salix on there, you can even install the "core or basic" versions and build up from there.
The thing with Salix is that there is no -current equivalent in Salix, so you essentially get a 14.2-like install. Salix does have its own version of SBo, but quita e few of the packages will be out-of-date by now, having been built in 2016
 
Old 02-10-2019, 05:05 PM   #21
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The thing with Salix is that there is no -current equivalent in Salix, so you essentially get a 14.2-like install. Salix does have its own version of SBo, but quita e few of the packages will be out-of-date by now, having been built in 2016
Forgot about the interest in -current...in that case Slackel could work: http://slackel.gr/forum/about.htm as a faster way to get a minimal -current.
 
Old 02-10-2019, 08:47 PM   #22
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Get bleachbit from sbo and get rid of locales, I also rm-r /usr/doc/* and /usr/man/* all that will cut out 400-500mb of space.
Code:
rm -r /usr/doc/* && rm -r /usr/man/* && rm -r /tmp/SBo/*
the folders in /var/lib/sboui/repo/ can be deleted too.
I made a script that does all that after every update/upgrade.

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Old 02-10-2019, 08:55 PM   #23
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maybe -- Just Maybe this is your laptop

Upgrade the SSD in a Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2015) and you can afford to slap a bigger ssd hdd in there... yea?!?!?
 
Old 02-10-2019, 09:03 PM   #24
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Apparently, no SSD upgrades are allowed for Brits, because the eMMC drives are soldered on-board.

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Old 02-10-2019, 09:09 PM   #25
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Oh well, too bad you can't take it back and get one that is.
 
Old 02-11-2019, 06:19 AM   #26
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I suppose this really comes down to an exercise in whether I want to learn more about Slackware or another OS based on Slackware. I'm leaning towards the former. That was kind of the point anyway.

As far as the OS side of things go, my options are to:

- partition it 12GB / 2GB / 2GB or 10GB / 2 GB / 4GB with -current [I like even numbers], keep a minimalist /home and use an SD card for other larger files

- partition it 14GB / 2GB and then use an encrypted SD card for all of /home

Keith - I see that you got it to 6.5GB which is excellent. I'm wondering if 10GB would be OK for root? However, I do intend to install XAP which is just shy of another 1GB. So I am currently thinking of 12GB for root. I won't be installing that much other stuff - Vivaldi, Spotify, Libre Office, Evince, Leafpad.

So for software sets I'm looking at A, AP, D, K, L, N, X, XAP and XFCE.

linus - your script will come in useful as well.
 
Old 02-11-2019, 06:44 AM   #27
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I might be wrong here, but IIRC you'll have to install the whole LibreOffice suite, while OpenOffice allows for leaving out parts (e.g. maths, base). And you could run spotify via Vivaldi and skip the fairly large spotify-client.
 
Old 02-11-2019, 08:41 AM   #28
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man, dude, I am running current and with a full install, and a few items, maybe more than I think, it is at 25.73GB. Trying to stuff it into a < 16GB space, not hardly. I'd have to go with using an internal 2.5 inch laptop hdd to USB External hdd OS, providing it can boot usb. ( that part may have already been discussed if it is capable to booting a usb port, or not). SSD, biggest one you can afford. It is light and you don't have to worry about shock tolerances. I'd even look into seeing if I could use an m.2 or msata card, with an adapter for usb port to make it more compact.

as you have pointed out, you have to strip it down to bare bones to get it to fix. I'd think, still leaving you with no real room for expansion on either side of the system.

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Old 02-11-2019, 08:55 AM   #29
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Indeed BW. For instance, on this laptop, look at the size of the root partition:

Code:
lysander@lysplorer_iv:~$ df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs            32M  1.1M   31M   4% /run
devtmpfs        8.0M     0  8.0M   0% /dev
/dev/sda3        30G   20G  8.2G  71% /
tmpfs           1.4G  231M  1.2G  17% /dev/shm
cgroup_root     1.4G     0  1.4G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda4       197G   10G  177G   6% /home
cgmfs           100K     0  100K   0% /run/cgmanager/fs
So 20GB used for root.

However, a whopping 7.3GB of that is the /tmp folder. If I cleared that alone - or set it to clear on each reboot - I would still have a multilib system with Steam under 14GB. And this laptop has a lot more on it than I intend to put on the Chromebook [and I don't intend to put Steam on the Chromebook].

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Old 02-11-2019, 09:03 AM   #30
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when you get to doing this, after install, create a rc.shutdown script in /etc/rc.d then add.

Code:
#!/bin/sh

rm -rv /tmp/*
#chmod +x rc.shutdown

to clean out your /tmp each time you shut down, or put /tmp in ram so it clears it every time you shut off your laptop. Because if you do end up running a slackbuild is that /tmp going to hold out on giving you enough room to build the app and its deps? You might end up cleaning it every time you're done with one slackbuild, but that is doable.

The only real way to find out is to do it. then maybe having to do it again a few times until you find the optimum install for your Chromebook.

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