If Slackware disappeared tomorrow, what would you run?
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View Poll Results: What would you run if Slackware disappeared tomorrow?
[begin my opinion]
If Slackware disappears it will only be because systemd turned Linux into another Microsoft Windows. So if the choice is to run a systemd "wannabe Windows" or Windows itself then at that point, Windows would be the lessor of two evils.
Now I'm not a participant on either side of this, just a spectator. And I've been reading all the baloney from the init wars and this is something much bigger than just a good idea wins out. This is, in my opinion, an exclusionary power struggle for some purpose (most likely to catapult certain key players into a leadership position in some large corporation - no doubt). As we've seen with the sellouts of major open source systems to billion dollar corporations in the past years, I also have no doubt that a sell-able payload is the objective of much of the politics of the init wars. Because why, if its merely a good idea, wouldn't it just be implemented and adopted, not implemented and forced via the chess game of yanking supply lines to key components, as it were. The reason would be that if alternates are available and in use, then the sell-able payload can't be realized.
So even though I have been an exclusive user of open source in my home for 15 years (last MS product I purchased was Windows Me), I'm really getting depressed and pessimistic about this civil war that is so thoughtlessly destructive to anyone who won't fall in line.
[end my opinion]
Now I'm not a participant on either side of this, just a spectator. And I've been reading all the baloney from the init wars and this is something much bigger than just a good idea wins out. This is, in my opinion, an exclusionary power struggle for some purpose (most likely to catapult certain key players into a leadership position in some large corporation - no doubt). As we've seen with the sellouts of major open source systems to billion dollar corporations in the past years, I also have no doubt that a sell-able payload is the objective of much of the politics of the init wars. Because why, if its merely a good idea, wouldn't it just be implemented and adopted, not implemented and forced via the chess game of yanking supply lines to key components, as it were. The reason would be that if alternates are available and in use, then the sell-able payload can't be realized.
Very insightful, and on reflection (while sitting on the fence and pondering), I'm forced to agree with this view. Now I'll make it less painful with a cold beer (or three)!
I voted, but my answer is...I really don't know. There is so much more to this business of Linux. I'm not convinced any amount of time investigating will make a difference, there is too much power and money, and I have no control of any kind to truly influence what happens. I know that sounds of being defeated, and maybe it is, I do know one thing for certain, Windows does not get my vote.
I'm a Slackware man, always have been, I like how I look in the mirror when I wear (use) it.
Don't feel sorry. Would this thread resemble in any way to the neglected block of marble on which David was sculpted, I'm afraid it would have to wait its Michelangelo a lot more than 25 years.
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Very insightful, and on reflection (while sitting on the fence and pondering), I'm forced to agree with this view. Now I'll make it less painful with a cold beer (or three)!
+1.
Agreed. coldbeer is right on the money (pun intended).
I guess I'd have to learn LFS.
My thoughts would be:
1. Learn LFS
2. Debian Testing
3. Arch
Debian Testing is ok if you don't mind IceWeasel and updates brake stuff sometimes.
Arch is also a little finicky for me.
I don't care for the whole apt-get pacman thing at all.
With LFS you could always import pkgtools into the building process and use pkgtools and build scripts in a similar fashion... sort of a psuedo-Slackware.
I must be missing something because to be blunt I see no reason to not go on using the Slackware I have. Thanks to years of using Slackware that didn't provide a crutch making it now nearly impossible to walk without a crutch, I'm pretty sure I can admin Slackware v14 for another 5 years minimum, do all that I currently want to do, maintain proper security, and install any foreseeable additions or improvements as needed. In 5 years the landscape will in all probability have given me plenty of options and time to go on from there. Hopefully one of those options will be to continue with Slackware. If you've ever seen the movie Memento you have seen the problems associated with routinely losing the capital you have amassed.
If Slackware ceased right now, I'd fork it and then follow in the future the Linux From Scratch guide, and model it as closely as I could to how Pat does things.
If Slackware ceased right now, I'd fork it and then follow in the future the Linux From Scratch guide, and model it as closely as I could to how Pat does things.
If Slackware ceased right now, I'd fork it and then follow in the future the Linux From Scratch guide, and model it as closely as I could to how Pat does things.
This thread was dormant for 4 years. Zombie thread!
Back in 2010 I said Arch or Debian. Today Debian.
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