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Old 10-29-2018, 03:13 AM   #16
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Nothing prevents someone from forking the last CentOS release
Sheer lack of manpower would prevent you from doing that in practice. Right now the CentOS team is a group roughly the size of the Slackware team, whose only scope and motivation is to build a coherent distribution from upstream sources, without any modification except replacing artwork and logos.

IBM has been known as Open Source friendly, remember the SCO lawsuit. And for the unlikely worst case scenario that Fedora and CentOS would lose their funding, there's always Debian and Slackware to fall back to. That's the beauty of free software.

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Old 10-29-2018, 05:03 AM   #17
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That's odd... I thought LQN, especially in General, was one of the few places brave, smart, evolved enough to allow political and religious discussion and expect a high standard of maturity to go along with that? Isn't it a case that "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen? Change the channel? Walk out of the movie? whatever, excepting supposing any of us has the right or privilege to dictate terms to everyone else?
There are plenty of places in the internet where I can "enjoy" political rants. Perhaps the general forum at LQ is suitable for that; I don't visit that one and don't really care what goes on there.

I would prefer that stuff to stay out of the Slackware forum, if you please.
 
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Old 10-29-2018, 05:28 AM   #18
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I would prefer that stuff to stay out of the Slackware forum, if you please.
Yeah! So, IBM and Red Hat please move your sales discussion to General, or wherever you belong on the LQ boards. This is totally off topic from Slackware.

Totally! LOL (yells at cloud). I remember buying Red Hat 5.2 box at CompUSA, still have the 1998 CDs. The installer looks much like Slackware current (shakes fist at sky).

Did I make it more on topic? I wonder what volkerdi is thinking about these enormous sums of money, in this day and age. Mind blowing.

Praise Bob!
 
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Old 10-29-2018, 05:32 AM   #19
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I would prefer that stuff to stay out of the Slackware forum, if you please.
I have posted the news (without comments) in the Red Hat forum, where I think it belongs. It has also been posted in Linux-News so yes better feed one of these threads than this one.
 
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:43 AM   #20
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I wouldn't necessarily say that this good news (I'd have liked Red Hat to retain its independence), but it sure could have been a lot, lot worse.

"it sure could have been a lot, lot worse."

yeah, like Microsoft acquiring Redhat, they recently acquired github
 
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:43 AM   #21
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I have posted the news (without comments) in the Red Hat forum, where I think it belongs. It has also been posted in Linux-News so yes better feed one of these threads than this one.
"Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 will default to BSD init", said newly appointed Red Hat chief developer Klaus-Dieter Grätfülded in an interview with ZDNet. "We paid 34 billion dollars to get rid of systemd. It's a hefty price, but it was well worth it."

Stock markets in New York, London and Tokyo reacted enthusiastically to these news.

 
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Old 10-29-2018, 07:07 AM   #22
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Nothing prevents someone from forking the last CentOS release, call it something else, and continue on
I have seen comments like this and agree it could be a valid concern. But why can't people move to Scientific Linux (wikipedia) ? I have never used SL myself but that is also built from RHEL and is still independent. So to me, SL would be a valid place to move to for people concerned about CentOS.
 
Old 10-29-2018, 07:42 AM   #23
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I have seen comments like this and agree it could be a valid concern. But why can't people move to Scientific Linux (wikipedia) ? I have never used SL myself but that is also built from RHEL and is still independent. So to me, SL would be a valid place to move to for people concerned about CentOS.
CentOS, Scientific Linux, Springdale Linux and all other RHEL clones are 100% dependent on upstream, e. g. Red Hat. Even Oracle Linux is nothing more than a clone with a different kernel and artwork.
 
Old 10-29-2018, 09:06 AM   #24
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"Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 will default to BSD init", said newly appointed Red Hat chief developer Klaus-Dieter Grätfülded in an interview with ZDNet. "We paid 34 billion dollars to get rid of systemd. It's a hefty price, but it was well worth it."

Stock markets in New York, London and Tokyo reacted enthusiastically to these news.


that is good news indeed, kudos to IBM for removing systemd
 
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:24 AM   #25
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"Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 will default to BSD init", said newly appointed Red Hat chief developer Klaus-Dieter Grätfülded in an interview with ZDNet. "We paid 34 billion dollars to get rid of systemd. It's a hefty price, but it was well worth it."
Good one!

the new chief developer is also a nice touch
 
Old 10-29-2018, 09:44 AM   #26
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Nothing prevents someone from forking the last CentOS release, call it something else, and continue on. It may not end up to be Fedora compatible over time, but if you aren't gonna pay, why would you worry about that?
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Sheer lack of manpower would prevent you from doing that in practice. Right now the CentOS team is a group roughly the size of the Slackware team, whose only scope and motivation is to build a coherent distribution from upstream sources, without any modification except replacing artwork and logos.
Funny this should be mentioned. There was some discussion on the CentOS mailing list recently about systemd and some suggestions that CentOS should be forked to remove it. Sure it would be A LOT of work, but there is some interest to do so. However, demands were made but nobody actually took any action. I doubt anything will ever come of it.
 
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:47 AM   #27
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okie, Niki is joking...

good one
 
Old 10-29-2018, 10:39 AM   #28
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Closing as a dupe. The Linux - News thread is ongoing here: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...on-4175641325/
 
  


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