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baxzius 06-22-2010 11:00 AM

i need slackware 1.0
 
please help me...
i wanna study about linux kernel 1.0.0....(please dont discourage me)
so modern linux distributions usually dont allow of compiling these kinds of old linux kernels... (becoz of lack of gnu chain tools)

so one person reccommended me that to use old linux distribution in order to work with linux 1.0.0 kernel....

so here by i decided to download slackware 1.
but i dont where would it be available. please help me.!

saulgoode 06-22-2010 11:26 AM

The oldest I could find is 1.1.2 (I didn't search too hard).

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-...ackware/1.1.2/

EDIT: It appears to use kernel 0.99.15, so you might need to use a more recent Slackware. :)

manwichmakesameal 06-22-2010 12:48 PM

If niels.horn sees this thread, he may be able to give you a copy. I think he has every version.

SpelledJ 06-22-2010 02:23 PM

You might need some pretty old hardware also. Something from around the 486 to Pentium 100 era. Newer hardware may be so unsupported by software that old that you'll never get it to boot. Virtualization might be an answer, but the VM drivers may also have problems with software that old. Not trying to discourage you, and you can always read source code, but just pointing out potential obstacles.

sahko 06-22-2010 02:30 PM

Niels Horn has the Slackware 1.0.1 source up here.

onebuck 06-22-2010 02:52 PM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by baxzius (Post 4011538)
please help me...
i wanna study about linux kernel 1.0.0....(please dont discourage me)
so modern linux distributions usually dont allow of compiling these kinds of old linux kernels... (becoz of lack of gnu chain tools)

so one person reccommended me that to use old linux distribution in order to work with linux 1.0.0 kernel....

so here by i decided to download slackware 1.
but i dont where would it be available. please help me.!

You'll need to get your hands on Slackware 2.0 if you want the 1.0.9 kernel.

Quote:

excerpt from http://www.anonymous-insider.net/lin...1994/0706.html
Current version numbers:
> Slackware 2.0
> SLS 1.05 with kernel 1.0
> Debian 0.91 Beta
> MCC 1.0+
> TAMU 1.0-A (binary only)
> JE distribution
> kernel sources version 1.1.23
> XFree86 Version 3.0 (Beta)
> Preliminary versions of the WINE code (Micorsoft Windows Emulator)

The "Linux Developer's Resource" is updated every two months. This release
was slightly delayed while we waited for Patrick to complete Slackware 2.0 !!
If memory serves me right I believe PV released Slackware 2.1 rather quickly. You may find it hard to find a Slackware 2.0 disk set(24 floppies).

BTW, LQ has a excellent spell check to make things right. It's a lot easier to read when the words are correct with proper grammar.

:hattip:

niels.horn 06-23-2010 10:12 PM

Hey, what can I say... I'm a bit slow lately :)

The O.P. already found my site and my e-mail.

I have about every version of Slackware that ever came out, but not enough space / bandwidth to put them all on my site.
If anyone is interested, I can put Slackware 2.0.1 (kernel 1.0.9) on my site. It's about 270M...

astrogeek 06-23-2010 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niels.horn (Post 4013276)
If anyone is interested, I can put Slackware 2.0.1 (kernel 1.0.9) on my site. It's about 270M...

I'll take you up on that. Do you want to make the link public or should I get an email to you? Thanks!

baxzius 06-24-2010 05:05 AM

so much thanks.....
 
i saw your website neils.horn . its confirm that your are a genius. any way i want to download it but the problem is that bochs or qemu is taking 100% cpu ... can it blow my cpu?

niels.horn 06-24-2010 05:15 AM

@astrogeek:
I'll put it up over the weekend. It will take a while, as my upload link at home is slow. I'll put the link here after it's finished.

@baxzius:
Don't know about bochs, but qemu should not take up 100% cpu.
OTOH, when running Slackware 1.01 your CPU will go to 100%, the same thing happens when running Windows 95 in an emulator.
I don't think it will "blow" your CPU, but you might want to monitor your temperature on the host.

brianL 06-24-2010 06:18 AM

I don't know if this is of any use, but somebody's built an even older kernel with GCC 4.

http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Dusting_Off_the_0.01_Kernel

onebuck 06-24-2010 07:03 AM

Hi,

brianL: I noticed the Slacker link in your sig. I thought you are from 'Oldham, Lancs, England' not 'Slack, West Yorkshire'?

Just curious. :)

brianL 06-24-2010 07:14 AM

Hi Gary
Yes, I'm from Oldham. The phrase on the Wikipedia page that best sums me up is this one:
Quote:

working lethargically
Is it laziness, or conservation of energy? ;)

onebuck 06-24-2010 08:11 AM

Hi,

I thought such but just wanted to pun a bit. :)

brianL 06-24-2010 08:14 AM

I suppose I could move to Slack, W.Yorks.

55020 06-24-2010 03:36 PM

You wouldn't like it. The birds don't fly backwards. :p

niels.horn 06-24-2010 09:22 PM

Well, as promised, I uploaded Slackware 2.0.1 to my site. It can be downloaded from this link, which shows the tarball, the md5 checksum and the GPG signature.
It is a 250MB download, so be patient...

This version is very complete, with all the sources and patches necessary.

No instructions on how to install it - this is an exercise for the reader ;)

sahko 07-20-2010 01:39 PM

Found a mirror holding SLS 1.03 if anyone feels like recreating Slackware from scratch :p

http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/sls-1.03/

slakmagik 07-20-2010 02:28 PM

That unfortunately looks like just the X set. Weird that a mirror would only go back to Slack10 and then leap back to (part of) SLS. :)

Here's the whole thing: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-...ions/sls/1.03/

It has 1.05, too.

I don't have the resources but someone needs to create a central repository of open source - a software museum. There are subsets like TUHS and scattered things all around (the above ibiblio has a lot) but I don't know of an oss-museum.org.

-- Actually, reading the README of http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-linux/, that's what he calls it. But it needs more exhibits, then. ;)

sahko 07-20-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slakmagik (Post 4039849)
That unfortunately looks like just the X set. Weird that a mirror would only go back to Slack10 and then leap back to (part of) SLS. :)

I think they used to sync from tds but that doesnt seem to be the case nowadays.

Quote:

Here's the whole thing: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-...ions/sls/1.03/

It has 1.05, too.
Neat.

Quote:

I don't have the resources but someone needs to create a central repository of open source - a software museum. There are subsets like TUHS and scattered things all around (the above ibiblio has a lot) but I don't know of an oss-museum.org.
Word.

niels.horn 07-20-2010 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slakmagik (Post 4039849)
<...>
I don't have the resources but someone needs to create a central repository of open source - a software museum. There are subsets like TUHS and scattered things all around (the above ibiblio has a lot) but I don't know of an oss-museum.org.
<...>

This is tricky material... I've exchanged some e-mails with Pat a few weeks back about hosting all the old Slackware versions somewhere and he mentioned the problem with the licenses.
He pointed out that the GPL license requires you to offer all sources to reconstruct the final product you're hosting and for many of these old programs sources have been long lost, or there are simply no instructions or necessary patches to build them.

slakmagik 07-20-2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niels.horn (Post 4039986)
This is tricky material... I've exchanged some e-mails with Pat a few weeks back about hosting all the old Slackware versions somewhere and he mentioned the problem with the licenses.
He pointed out that the GPL license requires you to offer all sources to reconstruct the final product you're hosting and for many of these old programs sources have been long lost, or there are simply no instructions or necessary patches to build them.

Huh, that's a good point. If it weren't mission-critical, I guess you could just remove the binaries of the things you didn't have the source for, but I'm definitely not a lawyer. Even a broken system with missing parts would still be something - archaeologists do a lot with reconstructing 10 ton critters with a handful of bones. But it definitely wouldn't be the same as the functioning systems.

twwwater 07-20-2010 08:00 PM

http://www.oldlinux.org/
you may find linux 1.0.0 here!!!
enjoy!

tallship 11-28-2010 01:25 PM

A little late, but a suggestion nevertheless...
 
Okay, I just stumbled across this one, and I have no idea why someone (a self-admitted n00b), would want to do this, but hey, that's totally kewl and I applaud the OPs tenacity.

I run some really old stuff (software and OSes) on some really old stuff (Like IBM 5150's and 3270 ATs, etc.,), and have fun doing it from time to time, and then I pack up those old boxes and put 'em in the sea container for another year or so until that wild hair comes up again.

For what you want to do, I would actually recommend installing on an old 386, rather than a 486, but you should probably be fine if you use something like a 486 DX33 or SX25, etc.., (YMMV).

Anyway, I'm a Slacker from the get go, but you're going to have 'some' issues installing a Slack that old regardless of the platform, and therefore, to just play with a 0.99.x kernel, might I point you to a distro that should install (relatively) painlessly on an old 386 w/ne2000 NICs, etc.?

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-...ons/yggdrasil/

Particulars about 'LGX', as it was also referred to, can be found HERE

Of interesting note is the little factoid that Adam's,"Yggdrasil Computing" published the "GNU Testament" of the "Linux Bible" ;)

I maintain .iso images of old Yggdrasil versions, and use them in VMs w/varying degrees of success, which I've made from the shrinkwrapped versions of the distro.

Since the notion of a bootable CD was still on the horizon back then, you'll need to boot and begin the installation from the floppies - you can use 'dd' or 'rawrite' to create those. Hm... if I recall correctly, a 4x CDROM drive was considered blazing fast at the time LOL! The original 'SoundBlaster 16' was state of the art as well.

You can have a lot of fun trying to successfully run this old stuff!!!

Yggdrasil was actually touted as "Plug and Play Linux", but that was a misnomer, as today we call these types of distro spins, "LiveCDs".

Hope that helps :)

2handband 11-28-2010 01:56 PM

I'm almost afraid to admit it... but this sounds like a fun project for a rainy day. What's the oldest version of Slack I could reasonably install on a VM without running into trouble? I didn't start using Linux till '06, and I guess I'm a bit curious to see what the old stuff looked like.

mudangel 11-28-2010 11:03 PM

If I could get my hands on an old enough PC, that would be a fun exercise!

tallship 12-30-2010 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2handband (Post 4173797)
I'm almost afraid to admit it... but this sounds like a fun project for a rainy day. What's the oldest version of Slack I could reasonably install on a VM without running into trouble? I didn't start using Linux till '06, and I guess I'm a bit curious to see what the old stuff looked like.

That's an interesting question ;)

I haven't fired it up in a while, but I'm actually running a couple of versions of Yggdrasil and even some old DOS versions with AILANBIO Artisoft Lantastic), but not SERVER.EXE, because I have DesqviewX to support a few nodes of UltraBBS and SearchlightBBS.

I did it just to do it, but I *think* that it is only *slightly* more stable than it was in the 386 days :)

The only problem I really ran into was in setting up the various DOS versions, when I realized that I can't remember how to (by hand) correctly set up my config.sys, etc., for QEMM or smartdrv, etc., anymore - but except for the exercise in nostalgia, why would it be important anyway, LOL!

I'm doing it all in VirtualBox.

Kindest regards,

SavoTU 12-30-2010 07:26 PM

I thought i should test my google skills as the are not being used so much now days but i am giving up now as it 1:18am. This is the best mirror i have found it does not have the 1.00 release on it but does have the 1.01 and up so it should save niels bandwidth.

ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/slackware/

My plan from here was to look for a ftp.cdrom.com mirror old enough to have the 1.0 release as that is where it was originally hosted according to the Release notes
Quote:

The Slackware release may be obtained by anonymous FTP from
ftp.cdrom.com in directory /pub/linux/slackware. This will be the main home
for this distribution, so look there for the latest versions. This is most
definately a real computer (tm) so there shouldn't be any of the problems
that happened the last time around when I tried to use a computer with only 2
megabytes of RAM for the archive site.
Edit again i noticed as posting that definitely is spelled wrong in the change log

niels.horn 12-30-2010 09:49 PM

I have never been able to find a 1.0 release of Slackware, so if you find one, do tell me :)

I have 1.01 running in Qemu, btw...

Alien Bob 12-31-2010 07:38 AM

A fast mirror which I setup thanks to the donation of a Virtual Machine on a gigabit pipe, includes all Slackware releases I could get a hold of: http://washer.alienbase.nl/mirrors/slackware/

Eric

brianL 12-31-2010 07:41 AM

An 8.1 .iso:
http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub...kware-8.1-iso/


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