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Old 05-18-2007, 01:13 PM   #46
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What has worked good for me was to keep a bound notebook where I write down any issues I had to dig to settle. Including the installation steps I took. Because, in the beginning, I found that I would dig for a solution, and then 6 months later run into it again and have to re-dig the issue. That was extremely frustrating as a newbie. Now a complete install is about as painless as making a peanut butter sandwich.

I don't know exactly when it happened but now Slackware is my only operating system. I used to use Windows ME and just dittled with Linux. But now, Linux is *it* for me, and my wife, and my daughter - and I can't say when it exactly happened. But with all crap about XP and now with Vista, I can jab at my co-workers when they talk about the cost of upgrading to Vista - I just say "it cost me nothing, I run Linux", and they just give me dirty looks.

BTW, Tink, my wife and daughter LOVE having their own user accounts. Thanks again for talking me out of that nasty root habit.
 
Old 05-18-2007, 03:01 PM   #47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coldbeer
What has worked good for me was to keep a bound notebook where I write down any issues I had to dig to settle. Including the installation steps I took. Because, in the beginning, I found that I would dig for a solution, and then 6 months later run into it again and have to re-dig the issue. That was extremely frustrating as a newbie. Now a complete install is about as painless as making a peanut butter sandwich.
Yep, that does help. A log-book (even though it requires discipline)
is a very good thing :}


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BTW, Tink, my wife and daughter LOVE having their own user accounts. Thanks again for talking me out of that nasty root habit.
Thanks again for that confirmation! :} I'm very pleased
to hear.


Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 05-18-2007, 04:05 PM   #48
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I find Ubuntu widely over-rated; plus they do a few stupid things,
and their dist-upgrades have a very low success-rate.



Cheers,
Tink (a very happy slacker)
Tell me all about it...
Ubuntu is great, but the dist-upgrades are not always a success indeed. Especially when you have third-party software installed (Nvidia drivers for example... )
And there are too many bugs in it. I'm still not able to shutdown without using the button on the pc, changing users by F 7/8/9 is often clunky (if it works at all). Building your own packages is a lot more difficult. And it's a lot slower. Installing Ubuntu on an older machine is not recommended.
But the hardware recognition is very good and the repositories are great.

I realise that Slack is not for everybody. It's harder to get things going, but the reward is bigger.
An absolute MUST is that you can read (& write) English to a certain level.
If not, Slack is not for you.
Don't give up too soon and you must be willing to learn and read.
If not, Slack is not for you.
Don't expect a "click-and-go-distro".
If not, Slack is not for you.
You don't have to be a geek or some kind of IT-specialist, I'm not, it's just hobby.
And I'm a happy Slacker too.
 
Old 05-19-2007, 04:50 AM   #49
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You don't have to be a geek or some kind of IT-specialist, I'm not, it's just hobby.
And I'm a happy Slacker too.
Well said. And me too (on both counts).
 
Old 05-19-2007, 06:53 AM   #50
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i love Slackware very much, Kudos to Pat V. i wish Pat a long and prosperous life, if not for Slackware i would probably switch to FreeBSD or maybe Crux, i like the BSD style init scripts as they are clean and orderly and easy to modify & maintain...

what i really dislike about Debian and Debian's child distros is their initrd boot loading scripts - they are a mess - and when i want to compile source code Slackware has all the headers & developent packages already included, on a default Debian install a user will have to apt-get this and apt-get that and apt-get some more because all the packages have been diced up & had their development header & C files stripped out (debian - what an annoying distro - ubuntu is worse) [/rant]
 
Old 05-20-2007, 11:57 AM   #51
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i love Slackware very much, Kudos to Pat V. i wish Pat a long and prosperous life, if not for Slackware i would probably switch to FreeBSD or maybe Crux, i like the BSD style init scripts as they are clean and orderly and easy to modify & maintain...
I also run Debian and on occasion, FreeBSD. FreeBSD is quite slack-like in stability and simplicity.
But, after distro shopping, hopping for 5 years I've settled on Slackware as my main OS. Slackware has a zen-like perfection that I do not encounter in other operating systems. There is no substitute for me:-)
Slack......what else is there?
 
Old 05-20-2007, 01:41 PM   #52
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For the past 4 years, the three distro's which I've used the most have been Gentoo, FreeBSD and Slackware. The funny thing was that whenever I got really frustrated with Gentoo or FreeBSD I would always switch back to good old Slack. And although, Gentoo has tons of documentation I seem to favor the more hands on Unix-like approach of Slackware ....
 
Old 05-20-2007, 03:17 PM   #53
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I use Gentoo docs on Slack, because Gentoo docs are one of the best docs for any kind of Linux distro.
 
Old 05-20-2007, 10:55 PM   #54
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I've found that even though Slackware has the "steep learning curve" reputation, it's very easy to piece back together after breaking (oops.) I use Sabayon Linux, too, and it's not too bad IMO. However, it's not Slackware.
 
Old 05-20-2007, 10:59 PM   #55
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I could never get Sabayon to ever run correctly, and I tried so many times. I have no idea why it wouldn't work.

Anyway, I agree that Slackware is actually quite easy to fix if broken compared to most other distros. Simple = easy to fix.
 
Old 05-21-2007, 06:15 AM   #56
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My trouble is I'm still suffering from Distrohopiphilia - the uncontrollable urge to change distros. I get a distro up & running, configured how I like it, bits & pieces added, then think: "Uhh, what now? What next??" The emacs psychotherapist says it's incurable.
 
Old 05-21-2007, 06:41 AM   #57
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My trouble is I'm still suffering from Distrohopiphilia - the uncontrollable urge to change distros.
you can do like i do (and probably many others too) keep an extra disk partition or two just for testing and playing around with other distros so you don't have to wipe your main working distro off the PC...

right now besides Slackware i have Crux sitting in another disk partition with kernel # 2.6.21.1
 
Old 05-21-2007, 07:43 AM   #58
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Yeah, I do that. But I'm torn between Slackware and Ubuntu as far as my main distro goes. Those are my favourites out of the distros I've tried: equal first, obviously for different reasons. With Debian testing second, and the rest trailing. Not tried Gentoo or Arch yet - next on the agenda.
The best thing would be to get a bigger hard-drive, dd XP on to it, install Slack & Ubuntu, & have space for experimentation. Yes, I'll do that.

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Old 05-21-2007, 08:51 AM   #59
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you can do like i do (and probably many others too) keep an extra disk partition or two just for testing and playing around with other distros so you don't have to wipe your main working distro off the PC...

That's how I ended up with Slackware! Now it's on the main partition and PCLinuxOS is just hanging around in case I need it. I'm tempted to put FreeBSD on there every once in a while, but then I think "Why?" Slackware is the best.

Joel
 
Old 05-21-2007, 08:52 AM   #60
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The emacs psychotherapist says it's incurable.
LOL!

Why don't you try writing your own X Windows desktop environment in Emacs Lisp? That should keep you busy for a while. I'm surprised somebody hasn't tried that yet.

I've got Slackware 11 on my desktop and OpenSUSE 10.2 on my laptop. I like SUSE, but not as much as I like Slackware. I'm finding it easier to configure, but harder to maintain than Slackware.

Regards,

-Drew
 
  


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