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Old 07-08-2004, 11:31 PM   #1
deleshai
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I am startsting to dislike linux... Media issue...


Sorry to say and I know it is my lack of understanding how it all works but I am a very simple user. I just like to check out the web and listen to daily updates, news and sports.
ok so when I goto like nba.com and check out available video real player starts up, gives a error screen the Totem opens and plays the video but if I try to go for the Audio only a small window opens and I see a temp of something to open with a small black win and dots and almost a play button but that is it!
Why cant this be black and white... what do I need to do!
Sorry but this is getting really lame for me....
I browse the web with Mozilla !.6 Slack 9.1 and download real player 8 and I did put the right file into my mozilla plpugin folder to get the vids to work but for some reason I cant just get the Audio file but funny enough I can goto like groovefactory.com and get the streaming audio files.
What gives ?
Mark
 
Old 07-09-2004, 12:11 AM   #2
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linux its like other OS --- need codecs

if your other operating system dont have the right codec to see a specific kind of video or animation, it wont work too, you just need to install the right codec, but in linux you need to read tutorials and handbooks to make somethings work, but in the end you will be learning a lot of things of how computer works, if you dont care about learning, u just leave it, but if you care, then dont giveup..

you can find codecs-0.2-noarch-1xs.tgz right here http://slackpkg.ath.cx/ I guess you're using Slackware.

good luck

Last edited by Metal-Lord; 07-09-2004 at 12:13 AM.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 12:27 AM   #3
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Thanks for the link but...

Yes I do understand reading and trying to figure out the right steps to take. I Have been over and thru this foroum and much thanks for all those who do try to help and do help but I have doen what I think should work. To be blunt why does it just not flow and work besides the fact that there are many Dist out there but its using one main foundation to build on and there is ALWAYS one thing or another. I do dig it in one way or another but this seems like it should be a basic no brainer that should just work. we all use the web and are looking into all media formats to browse..... I have only little luck getting some files to open in a window when I click on a link. Anyways I have rambled enough and I have not really made a point besides all I want to do is listen to a real audio file @ warriors .com but a window opens and does nothing and a video file will open but in totem dont knoe why but real player does try to open.
I looked at your link and sad to say once again I do not know where to go with it.... I have read thru the short dec but I do not see what I could use.
Thanks for the reply,
Mark
 
Old 07-09-2004, 01:53 AM   #4
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Try this link:

http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html

That is a list of plugins for Mozilla. It is not all of them but one of them may be the one you need. If not post back. I'll see if I can find the rest. It's here somewhere.

 
Old 07-09-2004, 01:59 AM   #5
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From plugindoc.mozdev.org:
"The RealPlayer plugin does not work with versions of Mozilla compiled with gcc 3.x. Bug 213234 [http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213234#c3] has an unsupported workaround."

Btw, try MPlayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) , it's a nice player and has support for a lot of codecs including real player.

Last edited by gbonvehi; 07-09-2004 at 07:16 AM.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 07:12 AM   #6
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Yea, you can always get something to work but I do see your point. Basically it is a load of crap. Thats high on my list of reasons why Microsoft will always dominate the desktop/personal computer arena.... It frustrates me just thinking about it. Now I want to ramble on about morons like the ones who make the mp3 codec and threatens people like Redhat if they include mp3 support in their distro..... Thats old news and solved but still... If you can't even play a simple mp3 out of the box, what good is the entire system to the average home user? Not much I'm affraid....

Don't give up deleshai.... I have Real Player, Gxine and Mplayer opening up any and all multimedia formats available on the web today. I'm sorry to say, you just need to spend some time tracking down all the right codecs and then associate the various files with different actions that you want. After you get it all setup, you'll never have to worry about it again, until M$ comes out with yet another newer codec.....
 
Old 07-09-2004, 10:02 AM   #7
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Well I cant give up... I already ditched my windows from my system so I have to work this out)
Thanks for the positve feedback from you all.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 10:11 AM   #8
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M$ needs to stop making things incompatable with other OS's. They need to make it so things will work regardless of what OS you use instead of 'making' things so they won't work with anything but M$.

M$ has a history of supressing anything it does not make, or make money off of. If they make a new codec, they should release the specs so Linux, as well as Macs, can use the files too.

That would make the world better for everybody.

 
Old 07-09-2004, 12:15 PM   #9
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dalek, while i agree with about M$'s software policies, you might as well keep dreaming cause it isn't going to happen. When you hold a (near) monoply, there's nothing forcing you to play nice with the other children....
 
Old 07-09-2004, 03:48 PM   #10
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re: deleshai

Don't give up man. I tried Linux for the first time with Mandrake 7.1 in 2000 (I think). My wife and I were still in college. Our impressions of Linux were "WOW", BUT there is still lots to be done. We went back to using Windows exclusively. When Mandrake 9.0 came out, I gave it a whirl. In our eyes, Linux mad made progress. Since then we have used Redhat 8, 9, Fedora 1 and 2 and now Slack 10.0. Linux has been a learning experience for me. I've had to think of computing from a new perspective. One of the conclusions I made early on was that Linux "makes sense" and was very powerful. I've had my share of frustrations, but once I have worked through them the benefits have been great.

As far as multimedia apps, I know what you are talking about. I could never get Real Player to work right on my Fedora systems. Perhaps I was making some newbie mistakes. Windows (XP in particular) may seem very user friendly, easy to use, easy to configure, easy to install apps, etc, BUT I have had more seemingly unsolvable problems with Windows than with Linux. My most recent issues have been with my aunt-in-law's XP wireless network. Desktop can ping the laptop, but NOT vice versa. The laptop can see the other computer in its work group, BUT the desktop crashes everytime I try to view the network workgroup. Both machines can communicate with the router, but they can't see each other. What the heck?!?

My other issue has been with my dad's father's day gift. I got him one of those keychain digital cameras from Brookstone. (He LOVES taking pictures) He had trouble with the camera and the driver. So, we uninstalled the driver....or so we thought. We tried reinstalling the driver, but the setup file invokes the uninstall program and NOT the install program. The driver with NOT remove itself from the Add/Remove list no matter how many times I run the uninstall. I have tried removing entries in the registry, searching for hidden files, removing references to the old installation. All attempts have failed. My dad tried calling the manufacturer, but they were of no help. They said I guess it won't work with your machine. WHAT?!?!?

So, Windows is not as smooth sailing as M$ would like you to believe. All of my Linux "issues" have been solved through reading, education and inquiring. None of them have been as weird as some of my Windows experiences.

<stepping off my soap box>

That's my $0.02

BTW, I see you are from NYC. I grew up on Long Island, went to college upstate and then I moved to my wife's home town. I miss my parents. They still live on L-town.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 04:51 PM   #11
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Re: Thanks for the link but...

Quote:
Originally posted by deleshai
To be blunt why does it just not flow and work besides the fact that there are many Dist out there but its using one main foundation to build on and there is ALWAYS one thing or another. I do dig it in one way or another but this seems like it should be a basic no brainer that should just work. we all use the web and are looking into all media formats to browse.....
with all due respect, if your point is directed to the larger community - consider that open source means "open" - ie, you are free to improve and/or build on whatever you don't like. nearly all gnu/linux apps were created by volunteers, working for free, changing what they didn't like, on others behalf.

 
Old 07-09-2004, 05:23 PM   #12
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Actually it sounds to me like you would be better suited to use Windows. As long as MS continues to have a near monopoly it will be the only one that some web sites worry about coding for. So it will be the only one that you won't have to work for a bit. And lets be honest there are some things out there that never will work right in Linux. I don't care about them so it doesn't bother me. But since it appears that you do care, I think Windows will be your way to go. Best of luck to you.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 09:13 PM   #13
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Talking Nothing to apologize for

There are always trade-offs with any decision, but with time you will see who is ahead of who. To me, having an open source OS is much more important than having some of the cosmetic features in Windows. I can never go back to proprietary software now, despite the hassles of configuring things manually.

Please don't cow to the Windows crowd. They will all be in trouble with that embedded browser until the new Windows OS ships in 2005. And when it does, everyone will have to buy newer computers to use it. Microsoft is in a very foolish predicament now, and they know it.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 10:55 PM   #14
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Try mandrake or Suse

Try mandrake or Suse my friend, and let Slackware or debian for us. hehehehehe
 
Old 07-10-2004, 01:00 AM   #15
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thanks again for the replies but I dont want to get off the subject here.... does anyone have any solid tips on how I can view or listen to the media that I am browsing for? I have looked into some of the links posted here but I have tried and followed thru as what todo. funny as it is, its interesting to read some of the replies and thanks.
Mark
 
  


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