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Old 07-14-2020, 08:33 AM   #1
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I 've Slackware 14.2 with Fluxbox. Now want to install KDE


Hi, I am using Slackware version 14.2 with Fluxbox since long. I had skipped KDE during installation. Now, I want to install KDE minimal. Can you please suggest the steps? Actually, I want to install kdenlive video editor. Can it be installed without KDE?
 
Old 07-14-2020, 08:48 AM   #2
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Since Plasma won't work on 14.2 you have to go for kdenlive-0.9.10 which is the latest version for KDE4. It's not in the official slackware repo, but ponce has it in his repo: http://ponce.cc/slackware/

Not sure what other KDE parts you'll need. kdelibs is probably a minimum, maybe kdebase as well, but there might be others.

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Old 07-14-2020, 10:29 AM   #3
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Simple way to install kde is to use slackpkg:

Code:
slackpkg install kde
As kgha mentioned, the newer versions of kdenlive require Plasma5, which isn't in Slackware yet. You'd need to either run -current with Alien Bob's ktown or install the older version of kdenlive.
 
Old 07-14-2020, 10:51 AM   #4
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but ponce has it in his repo: http://ponce.cc/slackware/
if you wish to use the packages you will find there be sure to read the README.txt files that you can also find in those directories (long story short those packages are UNSUPPORTED, even more if not installed as a whole, no dependencies solving, no partial installations).

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Old 07-14-2020, 12:17 PM   #5
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You "Minimal" guys do realize brand name 2TB hard drives are like 50 bux USD now, right?
 
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:39 PM   #6
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and some not KDE app will complain about some KDE lib being missing
 
Old 07-14-2020, 08:15 PM   #7
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You can get kdenlive from Slackbuilds.

The Slackbuilds page lists its dependencies, including the required KDE packages.
 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:12 AM   #8
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Thanks. Slackbuilds has KDEnlive. Mentioned dependencies on KDE are kdebase and kdelibs. I could find kdelibs in Slackware 14.2 iso. However, I couldn't locate kdebase package.
 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:18 AM   #9
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kde-baseapps-4.14.3
You might need kde-runtime-4.14.3 as well, not sure about that though.
 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:20 AM   #10
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you can use kdenlive.appimage
$ wget https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/relea...86_64.appimage
$ chmod +x kdenlive-20.04.1b-x86_64.appimage
$ ./ kdenlive-20.04.1b-x86_64.appimage
 
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:09 AM   #11
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you can use kdenlive.appimage
$ wget https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/relea...86_64.appimage
$ chmod +x kdenlive-20.04.1b-x86_64.appimage
$ ./ kdenlive-20.04.1b-x86_64.appimage
That's pretty awesome. I just tested it and it starts up on my 14.2 install with KDE4.
 
Old 07-15-2020, 02:00 PM   #12
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I have barely a clue as to how much it depends on KDE but I see it is available for many distros running some Gnome derivative. It may be far more powerful and feature-full than what you need but it wouldn't hurt to check out.....

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/pro...avinciresolve/

It installed easily on 14.2 for me and is far more than I need but it is intuitive enough being designed for serious Hollywood level pro work and best of all with great docs and tutorials that I like it rather a lot.
 
Old 07-16-2020, 02:19 AM   #13
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You "Minimal" guys do realize brand name 2TB hard drives are like 50 bux USD now, right?
It's also worth mentioning that not everyone lives in US and there are places where hardware prices went up or hardware stocks just went empty due to the current state of global logistics.

A "minimal" attitude is not always a caprice of an unexperienced user, often it is dictated by reality, which can be very different and sometimes quite harsh.
 
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It's also worth mentioning that not everyone lives in US and there are places where hardware prices went up or hardware stocks just went empty due to the current state of global logistics.

A "minimal" attitude is not always a caprice of an unexperienced user, often it is dictated by reality, which can be very different and sometimes quite harsh.
I sincerely do recognize such issues in some economies and empathize with your concerns and difficulties. I really didn't mean to be flippant or come off like some blind, prtiviledged elitist. I only mentioned how cheap 2TB drives are now in the US because that cost does scale (500GB brand name drives can be had here now for $20 USD) and I've seen posts from various people in other countries who have bought or are looking to buy not just SSDs but NVME SSDs. So I am assuming there are pretty cheap ways to acquire drive space almost anywhere if one looks around online, some likely close by.

How much shipping, taxes and tariffs are there on a $20 device that weighs less than 0.2kg from anywhere on Earth?

I actually predict the days of electromechanical drives are in low numbers now and manufacturers and resellers are seeking to dump as many as they can, while they can. If this technology follows the trajectory of other obsoleted technology the price will plummet until no new ones are being made and then the price will skyrocket back up because they (rightly) assume the buyer is in some sort of bind, increasing what they are willing to pay.
 
Old 07-16-2020, 01:46 PM   #15
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I actually predict the days of electromechanical drives are in low numbers now and manufacturers and resellers are seeking to dump as many as they can, while they can. If this technology follows the trajectory of other obsoleted technology the price will plummet until no new ones are being made and then the price will skyrocket back up because they (rightly) assume the buyer is in some sort of bind, increasing what they are willing to pay.
I don't think this will be the case anytime soon for large capacity drives. NAND doesn't have the same type of data retention as magnetic platters.

HDDs are typically able to hold data powered off for at least 10 years. NAND can be less than a year (and for some enterprise hardware, only a few months or less). This will undoubtedly continue to improve over time, but I imagine it will still be some time.

https://blog.macsales.com/43702-we-b...-exercise-too/
https://www.ontrack.com/en-us/blog/hdds-vs-ssds

Due to the vast cloud storage out there, HDDs will likely remain king for large amounts of storage for many more years.

However, I do believe that almost all the working drives on computers will end up moving to NAND, especially as things get cheaper and cheaper. 2TB drives aren't cheap because a lot of people are using them, they're cheap because the technology has progressed to make 12+TB drives reasonably priced, and as you get to smaller capacities, the cost shrinks.

I have 7 HDDs currently hooked up on my computer totaling mid to up 40TBs of capacity. This number increases each year as I replace a lower capacity drive with a newer larger capacity drive (my last one was a 12TB that was purchased on Black Friday). NAND will likely eventually catch up, but I don't imagine it will be for at least another decade (but I'd be happy to eat my words if it's earlier).

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