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Old 10-04-2009, 05:52 PM   #31
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just a think about akonadi/strigi:

after trying to disable this -why the hell i exist for- little feature called akonadi I came across to a system full of errors

so i want to disable akonadi right? but i dont see any enable/disable option, 10mins before i though ive found the solution, remove the damn think!, so i run removepkg and remove akonadi and strigi.

secs later i try to run konsole... boooom!
Code:
KDEInit could not launch '/bin/sh'
then im like wtf? so i try to run dolphin, dolphin doesnt want to start via a .desktop entry so i run "xterm" and run dolphin via xterm,
Code:
dolphin: error while loading shared libraries: libstreamanalyzer.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
tried a few other kde based apps and they just didnt want to start,I also tried to run Slackpack(my app writen in Qt4) and it was displayed on motif style!?!(looool), so dont tell me akonadi/strigi has nothing to do with KDE and they can be removed with no side-effects at all!

btw sry for my english
 
Old 10-05-2009, 01:57 AM   #32
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It's easy to check that libstreamanalyzer.so is provided by strigi.

So you can't run konsole and dolphin (and kontact, and probably many others) without strigi beeing installed -- but not necessarily used.

But you can run all theses applications without akonadi - I do.

Did I ever suggested to remove strigi ?

EDIT. To not remove, but disable strigi (as well as nepomuk, by the way) in KDE4:
- in the K menu, choose System Settings
- in the Advanced tab, choose Desktop Search
- in the Basic settings, uncheck Enable Strigi Desktop File Indexer then hit Apply.

Last edited by Didier Spaier; 10-05-2009 at 03:34 AM.
 
Old 10-05-2009, 04:05 AM   #33
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confirmed, the above post apply only if you remove strigi, not akonadi.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 09:22 PM   #34
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message to "MysticalGroovy" : Do not remove, disable or fool with strigi... you'll break the whole KDE desktop environment, and you'll end up like me with reinstalling everything! KDE 4 looks and MOSTLY feels like windows VISTA...!

Didier, bonjour mon ami! how did you ende dup using kontact without akonadi? is akonadi COMPLETELY disabled on your system? My point is that I feel that akonadi does not only cause crashes but also slow down kde.... maybe I'm wrong after all...

At this point, I am searching for an alternative to Kontact... IF I can, I'll trash (with sadistic pleasure) akonadi and Kontact and find a good alternative that works without bugs errors or doesnt crash every time you even just think about it.

Not to be whining, but seriously, a fresh install of Slack 13 with KDE 4.4.3 and out of the box, I get tons of errors....

-from akonadi (the error report that every body's talking about);
-kontact does not even launch (due to akonadi being crashed);
-the akonadi config tool has tons of bugs (click buttons, nothing happens, stop the server, it doesnt stop, click restart it doesn restart, some random "resources" are showing up in akonadi (wtf?!?), etc etc);
-and the whole KDE environment seems slower than ever....

basically, slackware 13 is nice, I think Pat and the slack crew did a wonderful job, but in my humble opinion, KDE 4 is not the good DE for slack, at least it is VERY premature right now.

if anybody here or anywhere else find a way to disintegrate akonadi and bring kontact the way it used to be (yes I dont need to have a centralized resource server) please let everybody know!

As far as I know, the contacts manager of Kontact is the only "feature" that requires akonadi.

Just to let everybody know, I tried the KDE3.5.10 packages from Pat (slackware) and I felt home again! THe only thing is some of my appz require KDE4 (dont ask me why!) and I did not feel to reprogram/compile everything...

Last edited by lpallard; 05-23-2010 at 09:26 PM.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 11:34 PM   #35
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I disabled Strigi and Akonadi when I learned how to disabled them (Dec 2009) and until now I have no problem with my KDE 4.4.3. By the way, I only see the Akonadi error when I log in as root.
 
Old 05-24-2010, 02:53 AM   #36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lpallard View Post
Didier, bonjour mon ami! how did you ende dup using kontact without akonadi? is akonadi COMPLETELY disabled on your system?
Bonjour lpallard,

c'est simple :
Code:
removepkg akonadi
So, yes Akonadi is completely diasbled on my Slackare64-13.0.

Now I am using Thunderbird under Fluxbox so I don't care that much about kontact anymore. May be I'll give KDE and possibly kontact another try when Slackware-13.1 will be released. Or I could switch to mutt

Bonne journée.

Last edited by Didier Spaier; 05-24-2010 at 08:48 AM.
 
Old 05-24-2010, 09:15 AM   #37
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Didier.

Thanks for your reply!

Assuming I understood your post correctly, I guess you are no longer using kontact as a PIM solution...? That would explain the possibility to remove akonadi without suffering from that. I knew removepkg akonadi would work, I already tried a few weeks ago but if I remember correctly, I ended up with a broken Kontact, it would not even launch (tried both the kicker menu and the command line) and was complaining about missing libraries...

I like the idea of having all my personal info (calendar, tasks, emails, notes, etc) accessible in the same location like in Kontact or M$ outlook. Do you have an alternative to Kontact to suggest? I heard of Chandler but haven't tried yet....

thanks!
 
Old 05-24-2010, 09:53 AM   #38
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Quote:
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Didier.
I heard of Chandler but haven't tried yet....
I'm using Chandler, and it's by far one of the most broken pieces of software ever. Slow and buggy.

And it's really sad, because there are some good ideas hidden behind all the crap.
 
Old 05-24-2010, 10:47 AM   #39
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In fact, here (Slackware64-13.0) I can at least launch kontact with akonadi removed.

This is not the case with Slackware64-13.1-rc2 though (in the latter case it complains about a missing library most probably shipped with akonadi).

Thunderbird + extensions (contacts sidebar, lightning, thinknote or thundernote), though not perfect IMHO, allows you to centralize calendar, tasks, emails, address book and notes.

Last edited by Didier Spaier; 05-24-2010 at 04:22 PM.
 
Old 05-25-2010, 09:20 AM   #40
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TL_CLD,

thanks for sharing your chandler experience with us! that saved me the efforts and precious time. I appreciate that! What are you using now for your PIM?

Didier, I am still searching for an alternative to Kontact. I tried the thunderbird thing with the plug ins but some of them cant be installed because they are not compatible with my version of TBird (namely the contacts sidebar)...

I cant believe there is no all in one PIM alternatives out there... I must not search correctly.

I imagine removing akonadi and all the bloated crap would help but did not expect to struggle like that! The way I see it now, the KDE team are going to push akonadi ahead and are currently using the interim versions of KDE (4.1-4.2...) to implement akonadi until it is integral part of KDE in release 4.5... this is what I read on the web at least... I would normally just fallback to the last KDE release when akonadi was only a potential feature but I cant, I use Kmymoney and it does not run on anything older than KDE4.3.....

Last edited by lpallard; 05-25-2010 at 09:23 AM.
 
Old 05-25-2010, 04:53 PM   #41
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Hello,

I'm running Slackware 13.1 32-bit here and kontact is working fine with akonadi running.

Admittedly I went through various issues on the journey from slackware 13.0 to -current (and finally 13.1). Based on my trials and errors, this is how I got akonadi working for me:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...4/#post3961678

The basic point is that akonadi didn't work for me in -current for a long time but after the upgrade to KDE 4.4.3, everything started to work. However I first had to clean up the legacy akonadi data as described in the above-mentioned post.
 
Old 05-28-2010, 07:24 PM   #42
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Just to let people know, I recently updated a bunch of packages (slackpkg update-all) and I am no longer experiencing problems with that akonadi thing... I gotta admit my hunger for destruction went down quite a bit...

Anyways, we'll see what the future reserve ...
 
Old 05-29-2010, 07:58 AM   #43
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Quote:
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message to "MysticalGroovy" : Do not remove, disable or fool with strigi... you'll break the whole KDE desktop environment, and you'll end up like me with reinstalling everything! KDE 4 looks and MOSTLY feels like windows VISTA...!...
That hasn't been my experience. If one is not using Kontact and Kmail they won't even notice the evil triplets are missing AND they will get a performance boost, even with Slackware 13.1.
Removing Akonadi and disabling (turning off) Strigi and Nepomuk are first thing one should do with a new installation, IMHO. At this point I'm using Xfce most of the time, but if it ever comes to the point KDE or some of its apps cannot be ran without Akonaki I'll completely remove KDE from my system. No great loss!
 
Old 05-29-2010, 08:20 AM   #44
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cwizardone, what i mean is to uninstall strigi (slackpkg remove strigi).... just disabling it is fine, in my experience at least. right now i have both strigi and nemopuk disabled and akonadi run fine for some extremely strange reasons... at least since i did an update on my system.. i still dont like the idea of having a server running in the background just for maybe 20 contacts?.... users should have the choice to use it or if overkill like in my case, deactivate it and use the classic vcards file...

that akonad remind me of wndows vista's readyboost and superfetch....

Last edited by lpallard; 05-29-2010 at 08:23 AM.
 
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:43 PM   #45
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That hasn't been my experience. If one is not using Kontact and Kmail they won't even notice the evil triplets are missing AND they will get a performance boost, even with Slackware 13.1.
Removing Akonadi and disabling (turning off) Strigi and Nepomuk are first thing one should do with a new installation, IMHO. At this point I'm using Xfce most of the time, but if it ever comes to the point KDE or some of its apps cannot be ran without Akonaki I'll completely remove KDE from my system. No great loss!
I second this. Although I've used and enjoyed Kmail for years, now it's the time to say goodbye. I don't want to keep Akonadi and similar ones running in my system.

Maybe it's possible to run Kmail w/o these services ?
Are some Kmail compiling/configuring options possible ?
 
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