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View Poll Results: How often do you update your system?
As soon as I see updates are available 113 61.08%
Every few days 29 15.68%
Once a week 17 9.19%
Once a week - once a month 19 10.27%
Longer than once a month 16 8.65%
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Old 02-02-2018, 01:36 PM   #46
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I find once a week seems to suffice on Debian Stable.
 
Old 02-02-2018, 05:32 PM   #47
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I run current and check for and apply updates from Pat every day while I'm drinking my morning coffee.

I also keep my browser(s) and kernel updated and will usually update them as soon as new versions become available. My addon slackbuilds I'm more relaxed about and update as and when there's a reason to.

I don't use slackpkg, sbopkg, sbotool, slapt-get, or anything like that, just rsync and a couple of scripts of my own devising.
I run CentOS 7.4 and I *TRY* to keep my system up-to-date and *TRY* to remember to run yum update once per day, I sometimes forget, but at a minimum 2-3 times per week.
 
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:50 PM   #48
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Love it when people respond to threads without checking that it is distro specific.... I suspect its "view latest posts", I have been guilty of that myself.
 
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:53 PM   #49
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I was wondering about all the interlopers myself.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:19 AM   #50
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On stable version, as soon as possible.
On current version: "it is wait and see" if it's worth and stable.
 
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:01 AM   #51
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Actually, Chuang-Tzu, I find it instructive if nothing else about the heavy maintenance load of so-called automated distros where every few days it seems, the base system may be at risk. This level of maintenance is completely unnecessary in Slackware yet so many assume manual dependency resolving is a time consuming burden. If they only realized.....
 
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:39 AM   #52
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so many assume manual dependency resolving is a time consuming burden. If they only realized.....
This is a very good point. A friend/contact of mine over in the US [now sadly passed away, I think] would not move to pure Slackware because of the unautomated dependencies. Before I moved to it I thought it would take a long time to set things up. It doesn't. Especially now that I've got 95% of the software I'll ever need installed on my system.

Some things do have a lot of dependencies though. For instance: Tilix. I was sent an email about it as a recommendation. It's not something I need but I was curious. I looked at the dependencies - I counted ten. Solution: I didn't install it. Surely that takes even less time.

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Old 02-03-2018, 05:31 PM   #53
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This is a very good point. A friend/contact of mine over in the US [now sadly passed away, I think] would not move to pure Slackware because of the unautomated dependencies. Before I moved to it I thought it would take a long time to set things up. It doesn't. Especially now that I've got 95% of the software I'll ever need installed on my system.

Some things do have a lot of dependencies though. For instance: Tilix. I was sent an email about it as a recommendation. It's not something I need but I was curious. I looked at the dependencies - I counted ten. Solution: I didn't install it. Surely that takes even less time.
only 10, thats still better then gnucash on Debian pulling in 65+ dependencies...LOL...
 
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Old 02-04-2018, 06:41 AM   #54
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Code:
stable/sbo$ cd slackrepo/clean/packages/14.2/x86_64/
stable/sbo$ find . -name '*.dep' -exec wc -l {} \; | sort -g -r | head -10
136 ./multimedia/mythplugins/mythplugins-0.27.4-x86_64-12_clean.dep
106 ./desktop/i3blocks/i3blocks-1.4-x86_64-1_clean.dep
105 ./office/pandoc/pandoc-1.17.0.3-x86_64-1_clean.dep
85 ./multimedia/mythtv/mythtv-0.27.6-x86_64-18_clean.dep
76 ./python/plaso/plaso-1.5.1-x86_64-21_clean.dep
75 ./haskell/haskell-http-client-tls/haskell-http-client-tls-0.2.2-x86_64-1_clean.dep
73 ./multimedia/miro/miro-6.0-x86_64-10_clean.dep
73 ./audio/soundconverter/soundconverter-2.1.5-x86_64-2_clean.dep
71 ./graphics/shutter/shutter-0.94-x86_64-10_clean.dep
70 ./multimedia/kaffeine-mozilla/kaffeine-mozilla-0.2-x86_64-1_clean.dep
stable/sbo$
 
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:13 AM   #55
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105 ./office/pandoc/pandoc-1.17.0.3-x86_64-1_clean.dep
Here is pandoc-2.1.1-x86_64-1slint.dep in Slint:
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pandoc-1.19.2.1-x86_64-1slint.dep
aaa_elflibs|gcc,aaa_elflibs|gcc-g++,aaa_elflibs|gmp,aaa_elflibs|pcre,aaa_elflibs|zlib,cmark,icu4c,libffi,BeautifulSoup,python-lxml
This is because I just rebuilt the official binaries, as suggested by someone on SBo.

I won't ship all those Haskell packages anytime soon

The Slint package will be uploaded hopefully tonight.

Source directory:
http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/sli...source/pandoc/

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Old 02-04-2018, 11:26 AM   #56
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I upgrade every 3-4 months.

I wait until the kernel, X Windows, gcc, and GNU stuff have stabilized and then take a snapshot of Slackware-current. I do from-scratch installations on all four of my PCs. These are production machines that need to work, always.

This approach seems to be the best compromise between keeping secure systems and not having too much churn.
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:13 AM   #57
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Something new through from the security list:

New php packages are available for Slackware 14.0, 14.1, 14.2, and -current to
fix security issues.


Quote:
Here are the details from the Slackware 14.2 ChangeLog:
+--------------------------+
patches/packages/php-5.6.33-i586-1_slack14.2.txz: Upgraded.
This update fixes bugs and security issues, including:
Potential infinite loop in gdImageCreateFromGifCtx.
Reflected XSS in .phar 404 page.
For more information, see:
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvenam...=CVE-2018-5711
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvenam...=CVE-2018-5712
(* Security fix *)
So are these fixes for default Slack packages?

EDIT: seems they are for default packages can be searched and checked here https://packages.slackware.com/

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Old 03-02-2018, 04:40 AM   #58
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I see now that I should have probably divided this topic into types of updates.

e.g. updating the main packages through slackpkg is a very easy process, however it's the SlackBuilds which could take time if one of the updated dependencies breaks another package.

As far as I can tell at the moment, I can just update the main packages and leave everything else as long as they work. I don't know if there's any need to upgrade the SBo packages as long as they function well.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:14 AM   #59
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I don't know if there's any need to upgrade the SBo packages as long as they function well.
That is a really good point. While Willy does give us little notes sometimes with the updates for SBo, we have no real idea if they are security updates or just plain fixes or updates.

I realize that it would be a lot of work for anyone on the SBo team to go through an check each and every package for why it is getting updated. Maybe that should be a new requirement/entry field on the submission page that when you do update a package it should be noted why. Then the Changelog {would/should/could} look more like PV's with *short* notes about why it is being updated, if only for security updates.
 
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:28 AM   #60
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That is what the comments field is for. If I update a package when there are known security issues with the previous version I am sure to mention it. However, a lot of the time the security issues may not be mentioned in a program's changelog and rather they will appear as any other bug fix.
 
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