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View Poll Results: How often do you update?
Whenever updates are available 52 47.27%
Every 2-3 days 6 5.45%
Once a week 20 18.18%
Once a month 4 3.64%
Longer than once a month 1 0.91%
Whenever I feel like it / it depends on the updates 27 24.55%
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:48 AM   #1
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How often do you update -current?


This is a follow-on, or a part two, of the previous thread from January last year. Time moves fast. In contrast to the other topic, this one only relates to -current.

I have tried to provide more relevant poll options than last time, but not all use cases can be included.

I have only been running -current for a few days, and I'm presently on a 'wait and see' approach. My last update was also the initial install taken from the 6th April snapshot. It would be interesting to see what stances people here take in order to upgrade their systems - not just about when, but why and how.
 
Old 04-10-2019, 06:53 AM   #2
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constantly at every update: if I read about disruptive changes in the ChangeLog I do it first on a controlled environment and only after testing on my hosts.
if there are major changes (also notable version bumps in libraries that break things) I also rebuild every third party package I have on my installations (I know I could limit the rebuilds to whatever is broken but, as we use to say here, "the greater includes the lesser").

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Old 04-10-2019, 07:07 AM   #3
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I do the same thing as ponce just testing is done on a test server with a software configuration identical to the production server.
 
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:09 AM   #4
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Ditto
Usually the same day the new kernel is released.
HTH
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:33 AM   #5
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i don't.

I am stuck with a year old -current at my work computer, because i did not want to risk breakage of third party packages between updates.
 
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:52 AM   #6
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i don't.
I didn't even think of that as an option.

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I am stuck with a year old -current at my work computer, because i did not want to risk breakage of third party packages between updates.
As a -current newbie I have to ask, wouldn't it be worth putting a day [or morning] aside, updating and then rebuilding third party packages as necessary [and then waiting another year]?

Have you encountered any identifiable issues from your lack of updates?
 
Old 04-10-2019, 08:08 AM   #7
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As a -current newbie I have to ask, wouldn't it be worth putting a day [or morning] aside, updating and then rebuilding third party packages as necessary [and then waiting another year]?
it's gonna take longer than a day, considering the amount of software I need to install even only from SBo. Then, there's configuration, putting certain databases to their proper place, installing more software in /opt and sometimes even in /usr/local/bin

I can give you specific examples if you are interested, but prepare for a long read :P

Also, i was in the middle of paper submission / resubmission nightmare, which required additional computational analyses, so updating my system was the last thing on my mind.

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Have you encountered any identifiable issues from your lack of updates?
no

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Old 04-10-2019, 08:15 AM   #8
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I can give you specific examples if you are interested, but prepare for a long read :P
I am interested, so do commence at your leisure.

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Also, i was in the middle of paper submission / resubmission nightmare, which required additional computational analyses, so updating my system was the last thing on my mind.
Is this for something university-related? I am using -current on my 'academic' laptop, and have an SD card for document backups. I am hoping [presuming] that using -current with my update cycle will not take much more time than 14.2 would [14.2 is not an option since the laptop runs an NVMe drive, and another distribution is not an option since I find every distro apart from Slackware frustrating].

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no
And that in itself says something. Either way, it's good to know that 'leaving it' can work in certain cases.

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Old 04-10-2019, 08:20 AM   #9
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yep, scientific paper on computational biology and evolution. Will write in more details later.
 
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:51 AM   #10
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And that in itself says something. Either way, it's good to know that 'leaving it' can work in certain cases.
Unlike some other distros Slackware current is not going to suddenly break if you put off on updating it for a while, the amount of things that require rebuilding or additional fixing may increase though.
 
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Old 04-10-2019, 09:02 AM   #11
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I update on the same day that updates are available.
 
Old 04-10-2019, 09:34 AM   #12
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Not 100% sure exactly what to answer on that poll.

Because the answer is really "it depends", but not always due to it depending on the updates.

I currently (pun almost intended) run -current on 5 machines. That is kind of a lie, because I have it installed on a 6th machine, my laptop, but that I don't really use all that often.

4 of the 5 machines I treat as test machines. That means I typically just install any and all updates whenever I have them available and in a position to do an update. Normally I will not do any updates while not being present at home.

The 5th machine is my primary workstation. *Most* updates I just install on that machine too, at the same time as the other machines. However, if a kernel is involved, I may hold back on installing that. Or install the updates but not reboot until I find a suitable time to do so that is not too disruptive for me all depending on what I am doing. This can mean a delay of a few hours up to some days. It's usually done within a couple of days at most.

Then there is the laptop... I use that every few weeks or maybe not for a couple of months. All depending on needs (not often as you can tell).
It is typically updates as the first thing that happens when I know I will be using it.

So all depending on timing, all of "Whenever updates are available", "Every 2-3 days" or "Whenever I feel like it / it depends on the updates" could be correct answers most of the time for most machines. Technically I guess the last option would be the overall most correct single answer of the ones available.

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Old 04-10-2019, 09:46 AM   #13
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My practice is circumspection.
If the updates look innocuous, then I am happy to update immediately that they appear on my local mirror. This can be up to 24 hours behind, so I have seen problem reports before the updates become available locally.
If the updates look intrusive, then I will leave them until I have the time to work through any potential disruptions (e.g. recompiling for icu4c changes is a lengthy process for me). I will not risk breaking software that I need for immediate priorities. Often I update on a non-essential computer and test before updating others.
 
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:40 AM   #14
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I think the frequency would depend upon why you are using -current instead of the last stable release.

If you're using -current to test it (because you're a nice person who doesn't mind being an ersatz guinea pig for others or just find playing around with new software a fun thing to do), then you should update ASAP to help flush out bugs.

If you're using -current to actually get stuff done (say your hardware isn't supported or you need a more recent version of something that's only available in -current), then how often you update would depend upon how sensitive you are to system breakage as well as how much you think you need the change.

(I'm not using -current this time, myself, but I didn't get to 3K posts by minding my own business. )
 
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:44 AM   #15
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Very good post, Richard. And orbea. Richard, I would definitely fall into the second category there. I suppose one could just apply security fixes if needs be?

karlmag - I'm pleased to see that this thread did something to temporarily draw you out of posting exile. Interesting information.

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