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Old 12-25-2003, 12:02 PM   #1
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How can I install slackware without floppy and CDrom


I download all files in the slackware-current directory from the site.
And I want to install slackware without floppy and CDrom.
How can I do that?
 
Old 12-25-2003, 04:21 PM   #2
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do you have a partition prepared, and linux currently running?

if so, u can use slacks pkg manager, or installpkg to fully install slack to that partition.. or you can check chroot, and install to the partion..

if you have all of the packages, and can do this, extrack the man page package, and the pkgtool package, and check the manpage for instructions..

keep posting..
 
Old 12-25-2003, 05:29 PM   #3
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why would you not want to use a CDROM? mabee it would be cool, but if your just looking to get slackware current, you could install slackware from CD and use swaret to upgrade to current.

if you dont have a CD-ROM or floppy drive (like on an old laptop or something) you could just extract the hard drive and use a laptop-IDE to normal-IDE adapter to put the hard drive on a desktop and install it that way.
 
Old 12-25-2003, 10:12 PM   #4
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Originally posted by miaviator278
do you have a partition prepared, and linux currently running?

if so, u can use slacks pkg manager, or installpkg to fully install slack to that partition.. or you can check chroot, and install to the partion..

if you have all of the packages, and can do this, extrack the man page package, and the pkgtool package, and check the manpage for instructions..

keep posting..
I have format a partition for slackware, but I don't have a linux running now.
 
Old 12-25-2003, 10:30 PM   #5
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why would you not want to use a CDROM? mabee it would be cool, but if your just looking to get slackware current, you could install slackware from CD and use swaret to upgrade to current.

if you dont have a CD-ROM or floppy drive (like on an old laptop or something) you could just extract the hard drive and use a laptop-IDE to normal-IDE adapter to put the hard drive on a desktop and install it that way.
You are right.I think that is cool.
And you are right too.I want to install slackware current.
I have burned slackware9.1 into CD.
I think if I could install slackware without CDROM and floppy like windows,
it would be perfect.
 
Old 12-26-2003, 10:28 PM   #6
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re: nocdrom no floppy

I think you are confusing installing from booting.

After it is installed, you can set it up to have a choice of booting
Windows or Linux, with no floppy or CD needed.

I recently tried downloading just the packages I wanted and making a directory on the hard drive with the packages. and using the boot/root floppies to get going. It sorta worked, but too many problems. an Install CD was the solution and I am happier.

After all said in done, I now turn on the computer and get a little lilo screen that asks me if I want to run Windows or Linux.

Installing, if that is really what you meant, would be hard without a floppy or CD. to boot the system, but not impossible. life would be a whole lot simpler if you can boot that CD you have. or at least buy a floppy drive for like 12-15 bucks and then do the boot-rootdisk thing (note- the blank floppies you use to make these should be "perfect" floppies with no bad sectors, which you can have even on new floppies out of the box !)

Good luck with your install !!
Dennis
 
Old 12-27-2003, 12:20 AM   #7
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I found a program named loadlin.exe.
That maybe what I need.
But I failed when I select install from harddisk.
Failed to mount the partition.
I don't know why.


Here is the description:
First, you'll need a DOS partition. Install Loadlin in a directory such
as C:\LOADLIN (the Loadlin package is available as a ZIP file in the
kernels/ directory). Once you have Loadlin installed, you'll need to
copy a Linux kernel and a Slackware installer image into the C:\LOADLIN
directory. We'll describe this process next:

You can find many kernels in the kernels/ directory on the CD. The
subdirectories have the same names as the Slackware bootdisks, and
contain the kernel used to make that bootdisk. You might want to refer to
the README files in the bootdisks directory to decide which kernel will
work best for your system. Once you've picked a kernel (zImage or
bzImage), copy it into the C:\LOADLIN directory. Next, grab the installer
image (named 'initrd.img') from the isolinux directory and copy the file
into your Loadlin directory.

Now, to start the installation process you'll need to boot DOS. If you
run Windows95, restarting the computer in MS-DOS mode is an option on the
Start button menu. (NOTE: If you miss the good-old-days when you got DOS
automatically when you booted your computer and had to type "win" to
actually start Windows, it's easy to fix Windows95 to work that way again.
Edit the file C:\MSDOS.SYS and change where it says BootGUI=1 to read
BootGUI=0)

Once you have DOS started, change into the Loadlin directory and use a
command like this one to start the installation rootdisk:

loadlin zimage rw root=/dev/ram initrd=initrd.img load_ramdisk=1

Usually the installation copies the kernel from the bootdisk, so when you
use this method you'll have to skip that menu, as well as the bootdisk
creation menu. It's also advisable to skip the LILO menu, since the
/vmlinuz will probably not be the one you want. You best bet is to use
Loadlin, since it's gotten you this far. Just edit the LINUX.BAT file to
point to your root Linux partition.
 
Old 12-27-2003, 03:08 AM   #8
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I'm still not clear on what's being asked for here. If you're needing the installation setup program, there is something called install.zip (in the rootdisks directory) that uses umsdos file system. You unzip this file to a FAT partition and then run 'setup' from there. So you would use loadlin to boot the kernel and install.zip files would be root, which gives you 'setup' running from hard disk. Then you would install Slack as usual, from packages located either on CDROM, floppy, or harddisk.
Do you have a running windows system that you have used to download packages or what? Do you not have a floppy drive? If not how did you create linux partition?
Are you trying to install Slackware or trying to boot an already installed system?
 
Old 12-27-2003, 10:05 PM   #9
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I think Zipslack is what you are after.

ZipSlack is a special edition of Slackware Linux that can be installed onto any FAT (or FAT32) filesystem with about 100 MB of free space. It uses the UMSDOS filesystem and contains most of the programs you will need. This means that you do not need to repartition your hard disk if you already have DOS or Windows installed. ZipSlack installs into a directory on your DOS filesystem. It can also be installed to and booted from a Zip disk.
 
Old 12-29-2003, 05:06 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by gnashley
I'm still not clear on what's being asked for here. If you're needing the installation setup program, there is something called install.zip (in the rootdisks directory) that uses umsdos file system. You unzip this file to a FAT partition and then run 'setup' from there. So you would use loadlin to boot the kernel and install.zip files would be root, which gives you 'setup' running from hard disk. Then you would install Slack as usual, from packages located either on CDROM, floppy, or harddisk.
Do you have a running windows system that you have used to download packages or what? Do you not have a floppy drive? If not how did you create linux partition?
Are you trying to install Slackware or trying to boot an already installed system?

I downloaded packages in windows2003. I have a floppy drive, but I only have one floppy. And I think if I can install Slackware form harddisk without CDROM and floppy drive, I don't have to buy more floppy or the slackware CD.

I want to used loadlin to install Slackwae form harddisk,but I don't know why I faile to do that.

BTW, I install slackware from CD now.
 
Old 12-29-2003, 08:46 AM   #11
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Loadlin is just a bootloader for booting an already installed system. DO you have a FAT partition on your system. If so you can dowload the install.zip file, which I mentioned. This is the Slackware setup program which will let you install slackware. Since you haven't started yet, you could always re-partition. You say you have a partition for Slackware, You could delete that partition and create a small FAT partition big enough to install the install.zip package there. You'll also need a a swap partition (type 82) for your slackware install. How much space do you have? If enough the easiest way would be to make 3 partitions -FAT, Linux native(type 83) and swap (type 82). If space is real limited you could convert the FAT to swap after installing.
 
Old 12-29-2003, 09:05 AM   #12
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Loadlin is just a bootloader for booting an already installed system. DO you have a FAT partition on your system. If so you can dowload the install.zip file, which I mentioned. This is the Slackware setup program which will let you install slackware. Since you haven't started yet, you could always re-partition. You say you have a partition for Slackware, You could delete that partition and create a small FAT partition big enough to install the install.zip package there. You'll also need a a swap partition (type 82) for your slackware install. How much space do you have? If enough the easiest way would be to make 3 partitions -FAT, Linux native(type 83) and swap (type 82). If space is real limited you could convert the FAT to swap after installing.
 
Old 12-31-2003, 01:10 PM   #13
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Install.zip use loadlin to setup Slackware.

Last edited by pingY; 12-31-2003 at 01:11 PM.
 
Old 12-31-2003, 02:46 PM   #14
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install.zip, just as 'setup' run from the CD, is a mini Slackware. You will need either loadlin or a bootdisk to start install.zip. Then it will ask you where the installation files are.
What about your partitions? What type are they(all of them) and what size? loadlin and install.zip must run from a FAT partition. You will also need a swap partition(type 82) and at least one linux native(type 83) partition. These must be created with some kind of linux, a boot/rescue disk or the install (setup) program. If you just have NTFS partitions this will not help. If you have FAT partitions the easiest thing would be to download ZipSlack and unzip that on to a FAT partition, edit the /linux/linux.bat file which will let you star it with loadlin. Then you can add anything you wynt from the packages that you already downloaded.
 
Old 01-01-2004, 05:00 AM   #15
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/dev/hda1 ntfs 4G
/dev/hda2 reiserfs 7.5G
/dev/hda5 swap 400M
/dev/hda6 fat32 7G
/dev/hda7 fat32 13G
/dev/hda8 fat32 6.3G
There are many loadlin in the slackware-current directory.
/zipslack/zipslack.zip
/kernels/loadlin16c.zip
/rootdisks/install.zip
which one shuld I choose? Could you talk about it step by step?
 
  


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