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03-06-2006, 09:10 AM
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Piete makes a good point: it is probably best to work in the shell for a few weeks, to get acquainted with how Unix and Slackware Linux work. It may also help to read a book. These two Slackware books are freely available on the web:
http://www.slackbasics.org/
http://www.slackbook.org/
It is also a good idea to read something like "UNIX for the impatient" by Paul W. Abrahams and Bruce R. Larson.
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03-06-2006, 03:27 PM
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: North England
Distribution: Slackware 10.2 (kernel 2.6.13)
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No docs added to /home/edd
Code:
edd@slackbox:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 9.4G 2.6G 6.9G 27% /
/dev/hda1 189M 36M 153M 19% /boot
/dev/hda5 46G 36M 46G 1% /home
/dev/hdc 1.3G 1.3G 0 100% /mnt/cdrom
After adding some docs to /home/edd
Code:
edd@slackbox:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 9.4G 2.6G 6.9G 27% /
/dev/hda1 189M 36M 153M 19% /boot
/dev/hda5 46G 905M 45G 2% /home
/dev/hdc 1.3G 1.3G 0 100% /mnt/cdrom
After adding even more
Code:
edd@slackbox:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 9.4G 2.6G 6.9G 27% /
/dev/hda1 189M 36M 153M 19% /boot
/dev/hda5 46G 1.3G 45G 3% /home
/dev/hdc 1.3G 1.3G 0 100% /mnt/cdrom
Ok thanks ppl. Now I think I understand mounting a little more. While when I go into the / directory and click the home folder the files in my /home/edd appear to be there however judging by the 'df -h' command the files aren't really there. So I can now come to the assumption that the home folder within the / directory contains merely a link to /home/edd. Am I right.
Sorry for not being able to see what is now pretty obvious.
Btw. The other initial problem:
"Creating folders is not supported with protocol trash." would appear to be a kde3.4 bug, goes away in kde3.5.1.
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03-06-2006, 04:10 PM
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#18
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Havant, Hampshire, UK
Distribution: Slamd64, Slackware, PS2Linux
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Almost there Edd, just a couple of things to clarify:
1. Everything is working fine, there's nothing wrong with your system. Understand this, embrace it and move on. I don't like badmouthing software, but in this case KDE is hindering your learning - find something else!
2. Konqueror's "Home Folder" just directs you straight to /home/edd (look at the location bar: file:/home/edd ) it's a Konqueror shortcut, nothing to do with the underlying structure of Linux or "links" (links in Linux are important and the word "link" has a special meaning to *nix users - try `man ln` to see what we mean).
3. Use a terminal. Use raw commands like ls and cd to explore your territory. They tell you what is there and don't confuse the issue by slapping GUIs in the way, if you don't know *how* to use a terminal, it's time to learn ... I'm sure someone around here has a good resource for new-terminal users that they'll happily share with you =)
- Piete.
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03-06-2006, 05:53 PM
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Registered: Feb 2006
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Thanks again piete for your time to explain and clarify things. I appreciate it. You said "Find something else" do you have any suggestions please. To be honest my reasons for starting a linux system was to get away from GUI but my commands vocabulary is very sparse at the moment. I do keep nosing around and pick up commands from other threads on the forum.
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03-06-2006, 07:07 PM
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Havant, Hampshire, UK
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Glad to be able to help, good to know that in days to come you'll be helping others like yourself =D
Anyway, the matter in hand: "something else"
You have 3 choices, the way I see it. You can come at this from different angles, and you might like to try them all before you're happy with one.
1. Strip right back to command line only. Boot into runlevel 3 and stay there for a bit =)
2. Try a *box variety of WM (fluxbox, blackbox)
3. Try xfce or similar
Each one offers a little more than the one before in terms of features, but none of them will hold your hand like KDE does. Incidentally, even if you go to blackbox you can still run kde apps from a terminal there. One of the major benefits (imho) of Linux is the fact there are many programs that do the same thing in different ways. Konqueror as a file manager is pretty feature-rich and does some nice stuff but I prefer to use Rox-Filer for what i do, and everyone I've introduced to it can see why. Alternatively there are options from Gnome, there are commandline options ... this topic itself has been covered a lot in other threads - try the search facility to see what others have recommended before hand. I suggest keywords like: rox alternative lightwight filemanager
And various combinations thereof.
Just rummaging around google brought up these sites that might interest you: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/commands/ and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/commands/
Have a look on your own and see what you find =)
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03-07-2006, 12:29 AM
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Just wanted to chime in to congratulate the thread participants - this is what LQ is all about, someone asks a question, someone else responds, and the OP posts back with an update. Congrats, and thanks all for posting back
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03-07-2006, 03:33 PM
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Registered: Feb 2006
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Quote:
even if you go to blackbox you can still run kde apps from a terminal there.
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Does the same apply to Fluxbox??
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03-07-2006, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Just wanted to chime in to congratulate the thread participants
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Thanks JW, makes me all warm and fuzzy inside =)
Edd:
Same applies to *any* window manager ... basically if you've got X running with a terminal, you can run anything that uses X. What I'm trying to say is: if it works in one WM it'll work in another.
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03-07-2006, 03:47 PM
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Registered: Feb 2006
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I like the look of fluxbox. Thanks again. I'll leave you in peace for now 
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