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Alien Bob 09-18-2013 01:57 AM

Hey folks, I'm calling this a beta!
 
The ChangeLog.txt tells all:
Code:

Wed Sep 18 02:56:19 UTC 2013
Hey folks, I'm calling this a beta!

Also noteworthy: the addition of grub 2.0 to the A/ series, and the move to Firefox 24 ESR.

I'll upload my rebuilt glibc multilib packages as soon as possible.

Eric

(note: the "I" of the subject line is Pat, not me...!)

astrogeek 09-18-2013 02:04 AM

Thanks to Pat and all! Updating as I type!

An auspicious event for my own thousandth post!

solarfields 09-18-2013 02:50 AM

Quote:

the addition of grub 2.0 to the A/ series
Will we be able to choose at install time whether to use LILO or Grub?

bartgymnast 09-18-2013 02:57 AM

I was just wondering the same question.

But great to see the addition of Grub.
now bash-completion from extra to standard and it would even be better

volkerdi 09-18-2013 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarfields (Post 5029752)
Will we be able to choose at install time whether to use LILO or Grub?

Sure! But GRUB will require some command line work. :)

kooru 09-18-2013 03:02 AM

Great new about grub. Even if I prefer lilo.
Thanks Pat!

astrogeek 09-18-2013 03:07 AM

I am ambivalent about Grub. My only attempt to use it was not successful (ca. 2003-4 I think).

To this point I am totally happy with Lilo and will not change until I have a reason.

But curious - was UEFI the driver behind the inclusion of Grub? Or something else like, "by popular demand"?

TobiSGD 09-18-2013 03:12 AM

Will there be an option to not use the ESR of Firefox, like an updated Slackbuild in /extra?

solarfields 09-18-2013 03:43 AM

Thank you Pat and the rest for your great work!

gmgf 09-18-2013 04:19 AM

Good, thanks, Pat and all other contrib.

alexcg 09-18-2013 05:36 AM

Is there a chance that the new version (0.95.5) of WindowMaker will be included in Slackware 14.1?
http://lists.windowmaker.org/dev/msg05329.html

Citramonum 09-18-2013 05:40 AM

Please upgrade MESA to 9.2 (many bug fixes).

Alien Bob 09-18-2013 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrogeek (Post 5029766)
was UEFI the driver behind the inclusion of Grub?

Yes. I think UEFI was the only reason for having GRUB2 added and in the A/ series even.

Eric

TobiSGD 09-18-2013 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Citramonum (Post 5029868)
Please upgrade MESA to 9.2 (many bug fixes).

From http://mesa3d.org/relnotes/9.2.html
Quote:

Mesa 9.2 is a new development release. People who are concerned with stability and reliability should stick with a previous release or wait for Mesa 9.2.1.

saxa 09-18-2013 05:53 AM

Thanks Slackware team !

Didier Spaier 09-18-2013 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxa (Post 5029880)
Thanks Slackware team !

+1

slint-14.1 beta is also ready.

Habitual 09-18-2013 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 5029718)
I'll upload my rebuilt glibc multilib packages as soon as possible.

Eric:
Does today's updates need anything special done?
It appears that they replaced the multilib ones you provided...
Code:

Package glibc-solibs-2.15_multilib-x86_64-7alien upgraded with new package ./glibc-solibs-2.15-x86_64-8_slack14.0.txz.
Package glibc-zoneinfo-2013c_multilib-noarch-3alien upgraded with new package ./glibc-zoneinfo-2013d_2013d-noarch-8_slack14.0.txz.
Package glibc-profile-2.15_multilib-x86_64-7alien upgraded with new package ./glibc-profile-2.15-x86_64-8_slack14.0.txz.
Package glibc-i18n-2.15_multilib-x86_64-7alien upgraded with new package ./glibc-i18n-2.15-x86_64-8_slack14.0.txz.

Good work and Thank you.

guanx 09-18-2013 07:50 AM

Please either upgrade or remove xfig becasue the current xfig is unusable.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ig-4175476926/
http://xfig.org/art17.html

EDIT: [SOLVED] Upgraded

hitest 09-18-2013 08:08 AM

Beta!! Very cool!
Upgraded all of my boxen and all are running well. Many thanks, Pat! :)

Code:

Linux odin 3.10.12-smp #2 SMP Sun Sep 15 02:06:06 CDT 2013 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

ReaperX7 09-18-2013 08:10 AM

Loving the addition of Grub2. I know we've had Grub-Legacy hiding in the sources for a while now, but never a true part of Slackware or even Extras.

I too hope we can see a choice between eLilo, Grub2, and maybe even SysLinux at installation.

This release is going to be very exciting.

Alien Bob 09-18-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habitual (Post 5029915)
Eric:
Does today's updates need anything special done?
It appears that they replaced the multilib ones you provided...

I only provided updated glibc packages for slackware-current. I have no fixed time frame by which I can make packages for older Slackware releases available - I do this Slackware stuff in my free time, and that time is very limited at the moment.

Eric

Kallaste 09-18-2013 08:28 AM

Great news! Thank you Pat and team! I will upgrade on my next free day.

kabamaru 09-18-2013 08:38 AM

Not so crazy about the Firefox change, but other than that, I think it'll be a great release. On the desktop side, KDE 4.10.5 is very stable, and Xfce users will now enjoy Thunar with tabs and all :-)

kikinovak 09-18-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 5029718)
Also noteworthy: the addition of grub 2.0 to the A/ series, and the move to Firefox 24 ESR.

That's great news!

Habitual 09-18-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 5029953)
I do this Slackware stuff in my free time, and that time is very limited at the moment.

Thank Eric:
Anything goes south, I guess I'll have to "get current"

But I was only wondering what the ramifications may be to the system.
I guess I should worry needlessly, you guys are way smarter than I am.

Thanks for all you do!

Alien Bob 09-18-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habitual (Post 5030012)
Thank Eric:
Anything goes south, I guess I'll have to "get current"

But I was only wondering what the ramifications may be to the system.
I guess I should worry needlessly, you guys are way smarter than I am.

Thanks for all you do!

It's your choice to stick with the multilib version of glibc which you had installed prior to the upgrade. The new package in Slackware fixes an integer overflow, see http://marc.info/?l=oss-security&m=137901344720874&w=2 but I have not seen reports of exploits.

I will eventually release patched multilib packages but I first need to upgrade my own virtual machines, and the server hardware died last weekend and I am busy replacing two drives after already having had to replace the case and PSU. The computer in the living room and that of my son had software issues as well, which of course have priority (family first even though those were Windows issues)... time is not working in my favour at the moment.

Eric

Habitual 09-18-2013 12:14 PM

Eric:

You don't owe me any explanations.

Peace.

Well, I did have to roll back those installs using true multilib Slackware64
and a local stash of /home/jj/Documents/Archives/Slackware/multilib/14.0/slackware64-compat32/

Scarey too. Skype, Thunderbird, and rainlendar2 all quit working.

Fortunately, It was only for a minute.

PrinceCruise 09-18-2013 12:32 PM

I'm looking forward to the final release. Thanks Pat, Eric and the team.

Regards.

TSquaredF 09-18-2013 04:07 PM

I want to add my thanks to Pat & all who have worked on Slackware through the years. I am quite happy about having grub2 as part of the distribution. I have been removing lilo & installing grub2 since grub2 has been available. It is not as intuitive as grub-legacy, but it's also not near as difficult as people try to make it appear.
Regards,
Bill

ryanpcmcquen 09-18-2013 04:16 PM

Thank you to all who work on Slackware (Pat, Eric, Robby and many more)!

I'm honored to be a Slacker. :-)

1337_powerslacker 09-18-2013 04:31 PM

I can't help thinking that Slackware 14.1 is going to be an especially awesome release, more so than the .0, which, in my experience, was less than stellar.

Go Slackware! :hattip:

1337_powerslacker 09-18-2013 04:36 PM

In fact, I put my money where my mouth is, and pre-ordered 14.1. Since I have not had a subscription since 11.0, I think it fitting to support Pat now, seeing as how impressive this release of Slackware is shaping up to be. :)

sycamorex 09-18-2013 05:03 PM

Thank you.

I'm not sure whether I'm more excited about the upcoming release of my favourite band's album (Dream Theater) or my favourite OS. Both are going to be special!

solarfields 09-18-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

I can't help thinking that Slackware 14.1 is going to be an especially awesome release...
aren't they all? ;)

1337_powerslacker 09-18-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarfields (Post 5030307)
aren't they all? ;)

'Tis true. But 14.0 didn't agree with my machine, mostly because the 3.2.29 kernel caused it to panic, but everything else was good, once I got the 3.4.10 kernel running on the machine, hence the 'especially' modifier. They are all awesome, but it is always better for the installation and first-time boot to go smoothly, which they had until 14.0.

afreitascs 09-18-2013 09:24 PM

Thanks Slackware team !

Alien Bob 09-19-2013 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 5029953)
I only provided updated glibc packages for slackware-current. I have no fixed time frame by which I can make packages for older Slackware releases available - I do this Slackware stuff in my free time, and that time is very limited at the moment.

Eric

I have uploaded new glibc multilib packages for Slackware 13.37 and 14.0 and also refreshed the packages in the "slackware64-compat32" directories there. See the RSS feed.

Eric

Lufbery 09-19-2013 08:11 AM

Nice! GNU chess is updated too.

Is there any chance of Linux kernel 3.11 making it into this release -- perhaps in testing?

zbreaker 09-19-2013 08:16 PM

Thanks Pat and team!

Another step towards total world domination...hehe.
Grub is a welcome addition and will be used by many recent Slack converts. Must admit, grub was all I knew
till I started with Slackware (12.1) but lilo suits me just fine at present.

slackcode 09-20-2013 01:01 AM

Very cool about GRUB2.
Thx all.

Broker824 09-21-2013 10:17 AM

I use Grub2 on Slackware 13.37 and now to 14.0.
I am happy Grub2 is now officially supported.:hattip:

Gumboherpy 09-21-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamorex (Post 5030286)
Thank you.

I'm not sure whether I'm more excited about the upcoming release of my favourite band's album (Dream Theater) or my favourite OS. Both are going to be special!

Blair the album while upgrading your Slackware, that'll be one awesome day.

AlleyTrotter 09-21-2013 02:29 PM

Kind of unhappy with grub2.
Tried an install with it a day or two ago
grub-install blah blah blah [ENTER]
and fifty screens of stuff flew by on the monitor. That bothers me. Remember the KISS principle
Even though it worked, when I rebooted and the grub boot selections came up. They were all called
"Slackware 14.0"
I had six of them. There is probably a way to change that, which I will learn sooner or later.
It just seems that lilo.conf or elilo.conf are so much easier to understand.
Just my $2 (inflation Huh?)
John

hitest 09-21-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyTrotter (Post 5032141)
It just seems that lilo.conf or elilo.conf are so much easier to understand.
Just my $2 (inflation Huh?)
John

Yeah, I am also more comfortable with lilo and like how it works. When 14.1 comes out I may try GRUB on one of my boxes just for the novelty. :)

solarfields 09-21-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Kind of unhappy with grub2.
When Slackware shipped only LILO, every now and then someone would complain that it didn't offer grub. Now Grub2 is offered for those who want it and people complain that it is there. :) I don't get it. Same thing with when NetworkManager was added...

AlleyTrotter 09-21-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarfields (Post 5032187)
...Grub2 is offered for those who want it and people complain that it is there. :) I don't get it. ...

Didn't mean to offend. You know "teaching an old dog new tricks" and all that.
I'm all in with whatever PV decides on for Slackware's new boot loader.
Already studying grub2 manual. I hope it solves the initial efi boot problem.
It looks like it may be able to boot into setup from the install dvd while in UEFI mode.
That would be great news.
John

volkerdi 09-21-2013 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyTrotter (Post 5032205)
Didn't mean to offend. You know "teaching an old dog new tricks" and all that.
I'm all in with whatever PV decides on for Slackware's new boot loader.

LILO won't be going anywhere. GRUB was added purely because it's a nice option for UEFI (and LILO doesn't work there at all). So use it if you like (for UEFI or BIOS)... otherwise, don't.

rkfb 09-21-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habitual (Post 5030104)

[...]

Scarey too. Skype, Thunderbird, and rainlendar2 all quit working.

Fortunately, It was only for a minute.

There is a 64-bit Skype at Slacky with the 32-bit libraries built in.

http://www.slacky.eu/asche64/pkgs/in...er=16&pkg=2111

astrogeek 09-21-2013 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkerdi (Post 5032207)
LILO won't be going anywhere. GRUB was added purely because it's a nice option for UEFI (and LILO doesn't work there at all). So use it if you like (for UEFI or BIOS)... otherwise, don't.

Very reassuring! Thanks!

solarfields 09-22-2013 02:05 AM

Quote:

Didn't mean to offend.
No offense taken, man :)


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