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Old 08-11-2010, 07:08 PM   #1
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Help replace flash player with mplayerplug-in


Using Pentium4, snd_hda_intel, Codec Realtek ALC880, slackware64 13.1, No Gnome, firefox3.6.8 with flashplayer. Is is possible to replace Flashplayer with mplayerplug-in? Followed this a ubuntu tutorial:
http://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
to identify Sound Device using:
Code:
$wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
Tested sound by running gxine wizard which set it up as a plugin. Also ran mplayer but there was no wizard for firefox plugin both play sound. Used slackpkg to download mplayerplugin and pkgtool to install it. Where is mplayerplugin suposed to be installed?
***Found Mplayerplug-in... Pkgtool installed it right into Tools -> Addons-> Plugins intoo firefox... So i am going to disable Flashplayer and see what happens Thought I had to mannually configure it?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.o...2e835deadeb48d

Can't view videos online still, guess I do have to configure
mplayer. Any clarification welcomed.

Still not sure howto plugin the information i got from alsa.info diagnostic.
Why don't i have an /etc/alsa/alsa.conf file? Instead there is a bluetooth.conf file in this directory?
Anyone here successfully replace flashplayer with mplayer or gxine?
Looking for current slackware ver information. Thank you

Last edited by NightSky; 08-11-2010 at 07:49 PM. Reason: Still can view video clips online...
 
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Old 08-11-2010, 08:01 PM   #2
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Plugins for mplayer and xine and the like only play audio and video, whereas most flash objects found on the net are packages of animations, media, scripts, and control objects that only a dedicated flashplayer can handle. In other words, they're small computer programs.

While it's true that mplayer can play certain .flv files, that's only because those specific flash containers only contain audio and video that mplayer can process. But the embedded flash video players found on youtube and the like are really small player programs that are actually playing external video files hosted on the site's servers.

So no, you can't replace the flash plugin with mplayer, although the two can coexist, allowing mplayer to handle simple formats while flashplayer handles the flash objects.

One choice you do have is replace the proprietary Adobe flashplayer with gnash. However gnash isn't yet up to the full capability of the original, meaning it can't yet support many of the newer flash objects. I read recently that it's basically at about a flash9 level right now.

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Old 08-12-2010, 01:38 AM   #3
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mplayerplug-in is depreciated, you should try the new version gecko-media-player. You can get it at slackbuilds.org or Alien Bob's repository. You'll have to install gnome-mplayer first though.
 
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:30 PM   #4
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Thank you for the guidance, as you can probably tell I have just started trying to use multimedia apps & programs. Currently running flashplayre 10.0.45r SBo, No Multi Lib, straightup lib64, ADblock:EasyList, EasyPrivacy, Malware Domains & NoScript. Recently I keep getting:
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You need to upgrade your Adobe Flash Player to watch this video.
Download it from Adobe.
Previous Message was that "Flashplayer Crashed". It had been working and then I upgraded to firefox 3.6.8; reinstalled Flashplayer SBo. Do I need to recompile what is available for slackware64? Have read that Adobe has not provided upgrade for linux 64bit? Can i get Flash 10.1 source for 32bit and use slackbuild to build 64bit? Thanks
 
Old 08-12-2010, 12:30 PM   #5
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Checked Adobe Forum, there seems to be many reports of problems with Flashplayer 10.1 Someone mentioned using 32bit thru a 64bit wrapper? What is this?

Last edited by NightSky; 08-12-2010 at 01:05 PM. Reason: Update Reference Adobe Forum
 
Old 08-12-2010, 01:03 PM   #6
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Thank you for the guidance, as you can probably tell I have just started trying to use multimedia apps & programs. Currently running flashplayre 10.0.45r SBo, No Multi Lib, straightup lib64, ADblock:EasyList, EasyPrivacy, Malware Domains & NoScript. Recently I keep getting:
Previous Message was that "Flashplayer Crashed". It had been working and then I upgraded to firefox 3.6.8;
Unfortunately, there are no further updates for flash for 64bit linux.
You will have to choose between:
1. Running the 10.1 beta flash with known security holes.
2. Installing multilib for Slackware and installing 32bit flash.
3. Switching to gnash, which has it's problems.

NOTE: Perhaps one of your FF addons is interfering with flash. You should investigate that first.
 
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:15 PM   #7
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Someone mentioned using 32bit thru a 64bit wrapper? What is this?
It could mean this:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...e-64-a-755781/

Or it could mean this.
http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/...kware:multilib
 
Old 08-12-2010, 02:53 PM   #8
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Has anybody experimented with this flash alternative? Is it usable, already?

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Old 08-12-2010, 07:22 PM   #9
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tommcd, before flash started crashing, i had no other plugins except the most basic, Flash and Java(TM). In Extensions I only had the 2 mentioned in OP. Now i have gxine, mplayer. Plugins are growing now, windows Media Player, RealPlayer9, QuickTime, DivX Browser, Google VLC multimedia, I didn't download these??? What's going on?

I removed 2 ABP subcriptions thinking they were culpable but crashes continued. Some videos play and others don't?? Why do videos stop & go, stop&go? Is it a browser cache thing? How would i fix that? Just got these 2 little speakers w/ 5.5"x6.5" subwoofer for $25 bucks they are awsome! All i want to do is watch music videos now for the first time!
veeall do i need gnome? Thanks for the option.

Will read all the links provided and keep googling. Thanks

Last edited by NightSky; 08-12-2010 at 07:33 PM. Reason: Chking Lightspark link
 
Old 08-13-2010, 12:44 AM   #10
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The mplayer plugin package is actually separated into several different plugins that process different media types, which is why you're seeing so many in your list. If you look closely at the plugin information you'll see they're all the same.

You might consider creating a fresh firefox profile. Extensions and other cruft can affect stability as well, and the effects can sometimes remain even if they're no longer installed. You might also see if the new plugin-container is affecting things. It's supposed to protect you from crashes, but who knows? See here for details and instructions for disabling it: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plugin-con...rocess_plugins


And don't forget that it's also possible that some of the flash objects you're trying to run are simply poorly written.
 
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:55 AM   #11
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I'll bite

Thanks David the H. will take a look. Saw somewhere you have to rm things from about:config page ...thought of just reinstalling FF but then just got frustrated and started on Lightspark. So much research&process to just get one little thing working.

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Has anybody experimented with this flash alternative? Is it usable, already?
Where do i download the source? Followed a link to sourceforge and well no download link - Finally found it:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/lightspark
Have you tried Lightspark? Trying to find documentation for building a slackware pkg... think i can use a slackbuild script?
Downloaded source to /home/user/LightsparkBld --First try at compiling anything --
What do i have to change if anything in following compile processes for Slackware64-13.1?:
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* mkdir build
* cd build
* cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DCOMPILE_PLUGIN=1 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ..
* make
* make install (should be run with root privileges)
Checking lib dependencies now...

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Old 08-16-2010, 12:27 PM   #12
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2 Questions:
Do i have the neccessay library files to build lightspark from source? Here is the List Required:
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*cmake,
* nasm,
llvm-dev (>= 2.7) or llvm-2.7-dev, libsdl1.2-dev,
libgl1-mesa-dev,
libxext-dev,
libcurl4-gnutls-dev or
libcurl4-openssl-dev,
*libxml2-dev,
zlib1g-dev,
libnspr4-dev,
libavcodec-dev,
libpcre3-dev,
libftgl-dev,
libglew1.5-dev,
xulrunner-dev (>=1.9.2),
libgtkglext1-dev,
libffi-dev
2. Should there be .adobe directory in /home/user, after un-installing Flashplayer and removing old packages from all directories?

Disabled mplayer in FF Plugins, Looking at gecko media player installation requirements, never used Gnome, run xfce.
Changed about:config settings for plugin container to false.

Last edited by NightSky; 08-16-2010 at 02:22 PM. Reason: lib with * i found but not the rest?
 
Old 08-16-2010, 05:35 PM   #13
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Do i have the neccessay library files to build lightspark from source? Here is the List Required:
Well, I don't know. Do you? If those are the packages you need to have installed, then make sure you install them. Note that the package names may be a bit different if the list is based on a different distribution.

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2. Should there be .adobe directory in /home/user, after un-installing Flashplayer and removing old packages from all directories?
Packaging systems rarely, if ever, touch the personal configuration and data files in your home directory, so you generally have to remove them yourself. The .adobe and .macromedia directories usually hold the cached files and settings for the various flash objects you run across. Indeed, flash-based "zombie" cookies are currently a big privacy worry, so periodically removing these directories is a good idea.

Note however that this will also remove any "good" settings as well, such as save states on any flash games you've played. There's a firefox extension called "BetterPrivacy" that will give you more control over these.
 
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:11 PM   #14
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Thanks David the H... Libraries currently running on this system are whatever intalls with slackware64 13.1 full install (look familiar ie. I know curl, glew, libxext, pcre are all part of 13.1, not sure for 64bit). How do i find out slackware equivalents? Checked the installed Libraries, only the ones with astres i recognized. Only available documentation is Fedora,ubuntu, Debian related.
Thanks again. Removing .adobe luckily i don't play games.
 
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According to the web, slack doesn't use separate dev packages, so if you have the libraries themselves installed, you should have everything. Your package manager should have a search function for finding the ones you need.
 
  


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