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SLACKER1 03-19-2020 07:11 AM
heating problem
 
hello
high cpu temperature in Slackware all time between 60° to 68
and heavy work going maximum 75°
but in manjaro cpu temperature between 50° to 56° and heavy work 60°
thermald installed on both and fan speed set to 4000rpm
i add this flags to grub: "intel_pstate=passive acpi_osi=Linux acpi_osi='!Windows 2012' acpi=force acpi_enforce_resources=lax acpi_mask_gpe=0x17" And cpu_freq set 1.20ghz to maximum 1.30ghz
this is cpu information:
Code:
lscpu
Architecture:                    x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):                  32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:                      Little Endian
Address sizes:                  36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
CPU(s):                          4
On-line CPU(s) list:            0-3
Thread(s) per core:              2
Core(s) per socket:              2
Socket(s):                      1
NUMA node(s):                    1
Vendor ID:                      GenuineIntel
CPU family:                      6
Model:                          58
Model name:                      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Stepping:                        9
CPU MHz:                        1197.299
CPU max MHz:                    3100.0000
CPU min MHz:                    1200.0000
BogoMIPS:                        4988.78
Virtualization:                  VT-x
L1d cache:                      64 KiB
L1i cache:                      64 KiB
L2 cache:                        512 KiB
L3 cache:                        3 MiB
NUMA node0 CPU(s):              0-3
Vulnerability Itlb multihit:    KVM: Mitigation: Split huge pages
Vulnerability L1tf:              Mitigation; PTE Inversion; VMX conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
Vulnerability Mds:              Mitigation; Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Vulnerability Meltdown:          Mitigation; PTI
Vulnerability Spec store bypass: Mitigation; Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Vulnerability Spectre v1:        Mitigation; usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Vulnerability Spectre v2:        Mitigation; Full generic retpoline, IBPB conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP conditional, RSB filling
Vulnerability Tsx async abort:  Not affected
Flags:                          fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx
                                fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good n
                                opl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ss
                                se3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdr
                                and lahf_lm cpuid_fault pti ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsba
                                se smep erms xsaveopt dtherm ida arat pln pts md_clear flush_l1d
Code:
grep . /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_driver
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver:intel_cpufreq
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_driver:intel_cpufreq
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/cpufreq/scaling_driver:intel_cpufreq
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/cpufreq/scaling_driver:intel_cpufreq
Code:
grep . /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor:powersave
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor:powersave
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/cpufreq/scaling_governor:powersave
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/cpufreq/scaling_governor:powersave
Code:
cpufreq-info
cpufrequtils 008: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009
Report errors and bugs to cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, please.
analyzing CPU 0:
  driver: intel_cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
  maximum transition latency: 20.0 us.
  hardware limits: 1.20 GHz - 3.10 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.30 GHz.
                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 1.20 GHz.
analyzing CPU 1:
  driver: intel_cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 1
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 1
  maximum transition latency: 20.0 us.
  hardware limits: 1.20 GHz - 3.10 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.30 GHz.
                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 1.20 GHz.
analyzing CPU 2:
  driver: intel_cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 2
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 2
  maximum transition latency: 20.0 us.
  hardware limits: 1.20 GHz - 3.10 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.30 GHz.
                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 1.20 GHz.
analyzing CPU 3:
  driver: intel_cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 3
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 3
  maximum transition latency: 20.0 us.
  hardware limits: 1.20 GHz - 3.10 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.30 GHz.
                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 1.20 GHz.
now just i open firefox 2 tab and 2 terminal
Code:
sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +62.0°C  (high = +87.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 0:        +59.0°C  (high = +87.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 1:        +62.0°C  (high = +87.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)

applesmc-isa-0300
Adapter: ISA adapter
Exhaust  :  4001 RPM  (min = 2000 RPM, max = 6200 RPM)
TA0P:        +45.0°C 
TB0T:        +34.5°C 
TB1T:        +34.5°C 
TB2T:        +33.8°C 
TC0E:        +61.5°C 
TC0F:        +64.0°C 
TC0J:          +2.2°C 
TC0P:        +53.8°C 
TC1C:        +57.0°C 
TC2C:        +57.0°C 
TCGC:        +57.0°C 
TCSA:        +58.0°C 
TCTD:          -0.2°C 
TCXC:        +59.0°C 
TG1D:        +64.0°C 
TM0P:        +42.8°C 
TM0S:        -128.0°C 
TPCD:        +64.0°C 
Th1H:        +49.0°C 
Ts0P:        -128.0°C 
Ts0S:        -128.0°C
macbook pro mid 2012 13"
already change thermal paste and clean fan
Thanks

enorbet 03-19-2020 08:08 AM
Can you list/compare the kernel versions on Slack vs/ Manjaro?

SLACKER1 03-19-2020 08:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 6102231)
Can you list/compare the kernel versions on Slack vs/ Manjaro?
this slackware:
Code:
root@darkstar:~# uname -a
Linux darkstar.example.net 5.4.25 #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 11:40:17 CDT 2020 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
root@darkstar:~# uname -r
5.4.25
manjaro
Code:
uname -a       
Linux winston-macbookpro92 5.4.24-1-MANJARO #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 5 20:29:25 UTC 2020 x86_64 GNU/Linux
➜  ~ uname -r
5.4.24-1-MANJARO

Regnad Kcin 03-19-2020 10:58 AM
You are far below the temp that even your fans would run at full speed. Why is it that you consider you have a problem?

dugan 03-19-2020 11:27 AM
Slackware sets the CPU governor to performance if you're not on batteries. This is different from every other distro (including Manjaro), which sets it to ondemand.

EDIT: I now see that it's already set to powersave, and you clearly already knew this.

enorbet 03-19-2020 02:40 PM
FWIW while I care about thermal effects on electronics rather a lot I am far more concerned when the effect is on me and more that 50C is too hot on my lap.

However, SLACKER1, since you have thermald installed don't you want

Code:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash intel_pstate=enable"
instead of just passive?

SLACKER1 03-19-2020 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin (Post 6102289)
You are far below the temp that even your fans would run at full speed. Why is it that you consider you have a problem?
i set 4000rpm with mbpfan. because at start time fan running full speed 6200

SLACKER1 03-20-2020 04:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 6102359)
FWIW while I care about thermal effects on electronics rather a lot I am far more concerned when the effect is on me and more that 50C is too hot on my lap.

However, SLACKER1, since you have thermald installed don't you want

Code:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash intel_pstate=enable"
instead of just passive?
i enable intel_pstate and change thermal paste agin
but same before
slackware running more hot on my laptop 75°

enorbet 03-20-2020 12:20 PM
Since your kernels are very similar it seems to me the only reason one distro will run hotter than another is some difference in settings or running processes. There is no magical distro. Any two distros running exactly the same software and settings will exhibit exactly the same results. FWIW I cannot escape my electronics training and tend to run most fans near full speed all the time. Even my nVidia card cooling fan is set by me through coolbits to stay a minimum of 80% speed.


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