2 year warranty-
http://storage.toshiba.com/storageso...dt01aca-series

You generally get what you pay for in markets as competitive as HDDs. 2TB 2 year warranty or 1TB 5 year warranty for a very similar price....

;)

and very noisy. I could see the point of them a few years ago, but these days SSDs are superiour IMO (faster, quiter, lower power consunmption).

Reds are more for NAS than RAID (yes, there is a major crossover). They are pretty much WD Green drives with a few tweaks.

It does make sense in some ways, you dont really need 2 or more 'fast' drives on a NAS with a speed limit of 1 gigabit.

I dont really trust newegg 'reviews' for various reasons, but I do think there has been some teething troubles with the Reds. Not really unexpected, they are slower and cheaper drives than the 'RE' (RAID Edition) enterprise drives.

Over the years I've become leery of Seagate drives -- had a bunch of failures starting with the 96 MB drives they made in the 80's (every one I sold to customers I had to replace). I've become partial to IBM and Western Digital (a pair of WD drivea have been working in one box, running 24/7, for, oh, lemme see, since 2004 now -- they're about due, methinks).

I've sort of learned that huge drives tend, in my experience, to go blooie earlier. I kind of limit myself to 500 GB and will wait a while longer to adopt terabyte drives (hell, I haven't gotten anywhere close to 500 GB on my data base servers, what the heck do I need with a terabyte?).

I've heard good words about Toshiba, no experience though.

It's a tough choice, kind of a crap shoot, back up early and often.

Did you work for maxtor at the 80GB era ?

No, I have not worked for any manufacturer, only OEMs, selling PC systems to the masses. Of course you will sometimes see problems with whole series of drives (IBM DeskStar anyone?), but those usually are quickly fixed and people in any case I know of got a working replacement drive or a refund.

@tronayne
He he - great minds think alike ... I could have written your post word for word as to my own experiences.
I have always limited myself to the 500-gig mark - and I have 8 yo drives in a multitude of rigs - still going strong.
'ts certainly true that 'the bigger they are, the harder they fall' (ie. bigger drives tend to fail more often).
I have always been fond of Samsung - never had any problems there. Seagate and WD I stay away from - too many failures.
All the IBM-disks I have come across run v-e-r-y hot, though they seldom seem to fail ...
However, all that being said and done - I still believe its more the 'luck of the draw' (or crap-shoot if you will)

Yeah, I've wondered about that -- IBM seems to build 'em (anymore) like tanks but you have to wonder how's come they get hot (well, hotter than others), not burn your finger, but not comfortable either. I mean, it's just a motor spinning platters for Pete's sake.

Samsung seems to build a lot of stuff that works pretty good over time (saw one of their 6' LED TV's not too long ago -- knock your socks off picture on the thing, Big Bucks, too). Heard lots of good words about their drives and, given the age of my WD drives, I'll get on to Micro Center and see about having them ship a couple for the parts-'n'-pieces closet.

@tronayne,
Funnily enough - I had a raid-box with 15 WD drives in it (400 gig) and half of them failed in less than 6 months!
I 'decommissioned' the raid and used the remaining disks in some oldish optoplex-280 I had kicking around. That's some 3 years now and I haven't had a single failure of those disks since ... *shaking head* - go figger!!

I clearly remember seeing 3 yr. listed - but cannot find it now. Clearly it is 2yr... oh well!

I go cross-eyed when reading these things!

I also agree somewhat on reading the reviews. The way I approach it is to read the bad reviews and look for recurring product problems as opposed to dissatisfaction from other causes. When looking at drives from that perspective you can see trends like "Failed affter 2 months...", or their absence.

In the case of the Toshiba drive, there were a good sampling of reviews (30+) and only one that was potentially an early failure (DOA which was blamed on storage at extreme cold temps). The drive was introduced spring 2012, so I thought that was a fair indicator.

I will update this thread if I have any surprises!

UPDATE...

I received the Toshiba drive and installed the new system today.

For completeness: Toshiba HDKPC09 (DT01ACA200), 2TB.

Initial comments - all good!

Totally quiet.

VERY cool! If it had come with sunglasses I could take it out to pick up chicks!

Seriously, I had it connected outside the box (i.e. no forced air) all day while installing from a local -current repo, plus many GBs from backup and other systems - __really__ cool all the while.

And did I say fast? It is notably faster than the Seagate 750GB it replaces.

This is my first >1TB drive, first day, first impressions all very good!

If it holds up I am a very happy camper!

It may sound absurd but biggest is the HD fastest is.
This is because data density is higher so head has to travel less.

I'd just like to follow up and say that the drive is still working great. I'm very happy with it.

Avoid Western Dildoe drives!
 

I've consistently experienced a failure rate ~ 50% from this slop-shop brand regardless of configuration, OS, hardware attached. Western Dildoe excretes the world's least realiable storage folks. Look up some data on WHICH brand keeps the data recovery specialists in the most business. I did, after a catastrophic double failure on a WD meant to replace an aging ATA HDD 12 yrs ago. My wife's brand new Samsung laptop this spring came pre-infested w M$ Winblowz 8 on a WD drive, in "secure boot" mode w a particularly noxious Samsung UEFI implementation. The 500 GB WD5000BPVT NEVER WORKED! WD "kwawlitee" has remained constant over the 12 years. I can cite other anecdotes from the computer recycling shop I used to hang out with. For reliable computing: AVOID WESTERN DILDOE!

THANK GOD FOR GNU, SLACKWARE and Toshiba!

At first, thanks for making your post unavailable for anyone searching information about Western Digital with not using the original name.
I can only say what I always say when things like that come up: I worked for several OEMs over the years, mostly in QA and RMA, and there is no brand that has better quality than others or a lower failure rate. Anecdotal evidence is no evidence, but I can also add one, from my main machine:

I used to work support for a few large firms in the uk and would have to agree with TobiSGD that it seems more luck than any particular brand failing more than another. I am going to curse my self now but i had a death star drive years back and although it's not in use any more it does still work and is around the house somewhere, and my current hard drive is a MDT which as i understand refurbished Weston Digital drive.

While this thread is currently resurrected I'll add that my Toshiba has lived up to all my expectations so far.

Daily use (haven't checked hours lately and it is offline at the moment) but lots of activity and has been moved around quite a bit as well. Very happy camper!


For completeness: Toshiba HDKPC09 (DT01ACA200), 2TB.